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Mohsen

I'd say all of the Archontophoenix in that photo are A.cunninghamiana. Definitely a Howea and Ravenea there too.

The Cycad looks to be Lepidozamia peroffskyana

 

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Daryl

 

Thanks Daryl

My neighbor who  gave me the Cycad  in pot ( below pic) said they are the same ( the one above) :

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gtsteve

That 'young one' looks definitely like a Burrawang (Macrozamia communis) to me.

the one in the pot may be too, but I would have expected more yellow petioles near the leaflet joints though.

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Mohsen

That 'young one' looks definitely like a Burrawang (Macrozamia communis) to me.

the one in the pot may be too, but I would have expected more yellow petioles near the leaflet joints though.

I spoke to my neighbor who gave this to me today , He said he took this with seed with small shoot exactly below the big one , so he is sure they are the same !!!...He said that one is at least 3o years old...mine is 3 years old...

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Pal Meir

I'd say all of the Archontophoenix in that photo are A.cunninghamiana. Definitely a Howea and Ravenea there too.

The Cycad looks to be Lepidozamia peroffskyana

regards,

Daryl

Thanks Daryl

My neighbor who  gave me the Cycad  in pot ( below pic) said they are the same ( the one above) :

This was also my suggestion which I had posted on 13 September. :D (I am no cycad specialist at all.)

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PalmnutVN

Oh myyy!!! I sometimes wish I could start my own palm nursery. Palms are ridiculously cheap here with the aforementioned L.grandis as an example going for around 60,000 VND (about $3 US) for a plant of a similar size.....

So do I wish in Sri Lanka, but very few gardeners or even less owners are interested by other the common species .

What is the size you mention for Licuala grandis at $3 US?

Indeed, it's the same ol' story here unfortunately... the 'a palm is a palm' mentality is widely prevalent. Mind you that does mean that when something 'rare' turns up, you can usually get it for next to nothing. I bought a 2.5m Dypsis cabadae (which is really unusual for VN) for 400,000 VND which is around $20. My spindle palm set me back $25 and that has about 1.5m of trunk. As for the aforementioned Licualas, the standard size is about 80cm in their pots... but ohh, to get my hands on some of those wonderful palms you have in Sri Lanka.... :)

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Pal Meir

I also saw CIDP and a young one ( I am not sure if that is CIDP too or not)

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The young palm on the first pic is not a Phoenix, perhaps a Ravenea (?) or so …

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Mohsen

could it be a ravenea glauca? I will be planting one soon :)

 

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Mohsen

" Trachycarpus fortunei " ( if I am right) just at next street,,,,should be very old ...

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Exotic Life

Have you already visited Hyde Park? Here e.g. a Butia sp.:

 

I have been there but didn't notice any palms ( before my Palm area :))...I will revisit again...I have seen many I think Butia capitata all around Sydney though...

Nearby Hyde Park or maybe it was Hyde park (Need to check) there are growing some very nice Bismarckia as well.

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Mohsen

Have you already visited Hyde Park? Here e.g. a Butia sp.:

 

I have been there but didn't notice any palms ( before my Palm area :))...I will revisit again...I have seen many I think Butia capitata all around Sydney though...

Nearby Hyde Park or maybe it was Hyde park (Need to check) there are growing some very nice Bismarckia as well.

Thanks, in this case I will visit it even sooner :)

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Pal Meir

In Hyde Park were also many other old palm trees, e.g. this very nice "coconutty" looking multi-stemmed Phoenix reclinata:

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Mohsen

Yesterday, I noticed two tall and I believe old livistona palms ( if I am correct) at westfield shopping center but not sure about their types

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Mohsen

Palmland yesterday :

 I could see few Lytocaryum weddellianum and took some seeds as well but again not sure they are ripe, the lady who was in charge there said that even if they are not ripe if I leave them for few days they will be ripe ( what exactly happened to those I picked from Botanical Garden) / Pal should confirm this of course ...

She also said they will have them time to time for sail in 20 cm pot for around $70.00.

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Mohsen

also there was one inside which the lady believed is the same type but I think it is "L. insigne" as it was thicker ( Pal to confirm)

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Pal Meir

also there was one inside which the lady believed is the same type but I think it is "L. insigne" as it was thicker ( Pal to confirm)

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It looks like Lytocaryum weddellianum (Syagrus w-a), L. insigne has stronger leaflets, but it would be interesting to know the diameter of the trunk ("naked" without the old petioles). – And good luck with the new seeds!

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Mohsen

Thanks Pal...I think it didn't have the naked trunk yet , maybe was not old enough....next time will double check and will buy some  if they have any available...

 

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Tassie_Troy1971

I saw these palms 3 months ago while walking around Rushcutters bay and Darling point.

Very large Hedyscepe canterburyana and howea belmoreana growing against the older house.

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Pal Meir

What happened to this Jubaea? Any update? This photo was taken 36 years ago in 1979. As the Jubaea stands next to a Sequoia it looks a bit tiny, but the trunk was really thick:

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Pip

I'm really enjoying being in Sydney this week. I managed to wag the conference I'm supposed to be attending Monday morning and had a brief visit to the Botanic Garden. I had my 10yr old with me so I couldn't really spend the time I would have liked. I do now have a better appreciation of the proportions of Beccariophoenix as I've only seen small specimens in Adelaide. Now I can plan on the final location of mine.

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Mohsen

I had a quick visit to  Palmland today and they had some new species ( was almost 41 C today :( ): I took some pis hope you like them :

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Mohsen

Pal,

Yesterday I went to Sydney Botanical Garden :

I searched carefully and I think all of the "Lytocaryum" were  weddellianum and only one had a thicker trunk and might be "L.insigne" :

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Pal Meir

Fantastic pics! :greenthumb::D I would like it if you could also post the first four photos in the thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/47545-lytocaryum-syagrus-insignis-vs-s-weddellianum/

Or would it be okay for you if I would combine those photos together showing the contrasts between the two species? And then post them in the above mentioned thread.

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Pal Meir

The trunk and the pattern of the old leaf sheaths of the palm in your two last photos is typical for L weddellianum. Do you have also a photo which shows the upper part with the fronds? – The palm before (the 2nd of the 3 palms) has a habit which resembles very much the 1st palm with the thickest stem. Perhaps because it stands in a more sunny position, but I am not sure … I have to study the enlarged photos in detail.

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Mohsen
On 11/20/2015, 8:55:49, Pal Meir said:

Fantastic pics! :greenthumb::D I would like it if you could also post the first four photos in the thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/47545-lytocaryum-syagrus-insignis-vs-s-weddellianum/

Or would it be okay for you if I would combine those photos together showing the contrasts between the two species? And then post them in the above mentioned thread.

Pal

You are more than welcome to use any pics from me and any where :) I am glad that you like them ...

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Mohsen
On 11/20/2015, 9:36:44, Pal Meir said:

The trunk and the pattern of the old leaf sheaths of the palm in your two last photos is typical for L weddellianum. Do you have also a photo which shows the upper part with the fronds? – The palm before (the 2nd of the 3 palms) has a habit which resembles very much the 1st palm with the thickest stem. Perhaps because it stands in a more sunny position, but I am not sure … I have to study the enlarged photos in detail.

Pal, I noticed that as well, the first one was thicker and I thought should be L.S but also the second one was thiner but similar shape coloe textire in the trunk ...

Is it confirmed that the 1st one is "L.insigne"  for sure ? could the second also be "L.insigne"?

more photo :

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Pal Meir
4 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Pal

You are more than welcome to use any pics from me and any where :) I am glad that you like them ...

Thank you sooo much! I have used six of your photos in my thread "S insignis vs S weddelliana". :)

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Pal Meir
4 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Pal, I noticed that as well, the first one was thicker and I thought should be L.S but also the second one was thiner but similar shape coloe textire in the trunk ...

Is it confirmed that the 1st one is "L.insigne"  for sure ? could the second also be "L.insigne"?

The problem of the 2nd palm I have discussed on my above mentioned thread. Even most experienced palm botanists like Dr. Henderson (1995) could not distinguish the two species when they became adult. This led to the confusion and resulted in the joining to only one species L weddellianum.

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Mohsen

I went to a nursery who is specialized in tropical plants but not only palms, they have few very common species ...but also had established trees in their garden too...I hope you like the pictures :

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