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On 2/13/2016, 6:10:28, Mohsen said:

update : 13-2-2016

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On 2/13/2016, 8:55:33, Pal Meir said:

The tip of the left one of the twins looks a bit brownish … :(

update " L.Hybrid twins - 15-3-2016

slow but seems healthy :)

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Ivorhooper

Hi all, can someone ID this palm seed for me? Collected in a guy's spice garden in Kerala, India.

It's big! It's the one in the middle, the other seed is areca catechu and it's about twice the size of that. I've also put a £2 coin next to it for scale - it's 28.4mm diameter.

All I could see of the palm is that it's pinnate, smooth trunk, tall. The embryo has always been brown, but there's three roots(?) coming from the bottom (can just see in pic 2)

Thanks in advance.

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Mohsen
On 12/27/2015, 3:57:28, Mohsen said:

Pal, how about these chamaedorea arenbergiana seeds, do you have any experiences with them? they should be the same as other chamaedorea ? adjacent germinators?

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update : C.arenbergiana 19-3-2016

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Mohsen
On 3/9/2016, 12:37:04, Mohsen said:

update 9-3-2016

Finally the leaf has pushed the shell :) ...Pal @Pal Meir, should I keep it in full sun even from now? when should I bring it inside?

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update : 23-3-2016

I bring it inside at nights now

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Mohsen
On 6 February 2016 10:04:41 am, Mohsen said:

Pal, unfortunately this one died from mold :(

I have another one and I am not sure what to do to prevent that ?

I think the reason is that it dose not  have shell and the flesh is exposed ?

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So far so good with Hedyscepe :)

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Paul_T

Got twins from one of my Butia Odorata seeds. They both still only have a single leaf but one is over 17 inches tall. 

 

Not grown them before. Is it normal for them to get that tall?

 

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redbeard917

Those Butia look a little stretched, because the light levels are low, but that's not out of the ordinary. Most of the ones around here that germinate under the mother tree in full sun are more compact but still about 10-12in. Just slowly transition them to a higher light environment.

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Pal Meir
On 28.3.2016, 16:08:14, Paul_T said:

Got twins from one of my Butia Odorata seeds. They both still only have a single leaf but one is over 17 inches tall. 

Not grown them before. Is it normal for them to get that tall?

Stretched leaves are normal for Butias grown at shady sites; they like full sun even as seedlings. Here a seedling of mine (Nov. 1972), also grown indoors on a window sill, showing the tip of its 5th leaf:

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Paul_T

That explains it. Thanks for the replies guys. 

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Mohsen
On 2/5/2016, 5:59:27, Mohsen said:

I used this long pot...hopefully it is long enough ...

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Today I was checking the Bizzie seed and I noticed a leaf is in it...first I thought it was came from another plant but when I tried to pick it it was stick there so I found out it is the first leaf of my Bizzie :) ...I thought it would take longer but it is 50-55 days after germination...any idea how quickly it will grow and after how many single  eaves it will have fronds?

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Mohsen

Sabal palmetto and Sabal causiarum : ( thanks to Lucas)

only 20 days after out them in bag...

So far, Sabal been very quick germinators, are they remote germination Pal?

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Mohsen

chamaedorea benziei :

showed germination after 30 days :)

 

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Pal Meir

Congrats! :greenthumb: Sabals are remote germinators and will get a "heel", i.e. grow at first downwards before showing a stem.

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the 2nd Bizzi after 11 weeks....faster than I thought...How fast a Bizzie seedling grow ?

 

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Las Palmas Norte
On ‎4‎/‎4‎/‎2016‎ ‎8‎:‎16‎:‎25‎, Mohsen said:

Sabal palmetto and Sabal causiarum : ( thanks to Lucas)

only 20 days after out them in bag...

So far, Sabal been very quick germinators, are they remote germination Pal?

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All the Sabal palm seeds I started, have been very good germinators with 90% plus rates. Yours look great too!

Cheers, Barrie.

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Mohsen
On 23 March 2016 at 12:28:21 AM, Mohsen said:

update : 23-3-2016

I bring it inside at nights now

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Update : still alive :)

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Mohsen

Sabal rosei after 3 weeks, thanks to Lucas :) 

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Mohsen

1X Sabal Louisiana out of 10 after 6 weeks , Thanks to Lucas :)

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Mohsen

1X Chamaedorea woodsoniana out of 10 after 11 weeks , this type is taking longer for me to germinate :)

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Pal Meir

And again for your germinating family album: :D

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Mohsen
On 2/24/2016, 2:18:58, Mohsen said:

one of Trithrinax acanthocoma is germinated now ...I just used the simple bag method...I put the rest in fridge and now put the in the same bag...it took 7 weeks...

Thanks you Konstantinos :) , @Phoenikakias,  is this remote germinatior? any special care or special soil I need to have for it?should I pot it up now ?

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update : Trithrinax acanthocoma  - 8-5-2016 :

the green leaf is appearing :) 

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Mohsen

@Pal Meir, I think something wrong here...after months not weeks and still no 2nd-3rd leaf of my Lytocaryum Hybrids not appearing   :(  ...

and generally I think all of my seedlings are not growing to a standard pace...

shat might be wrong ? what can I do ?

 

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3 hours ago, Mohsen said:

 

 

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They seem in good health! Not all species grow faster ...................

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Pal Meir
5 hours ago, Mohsen said:

@Pal Meir, I think something wrong here...after months not weeks and still no 2nd-3rd leaf of my Lytocaryum Hybrids not appearing   :(  ...

and generally I think all of my seedlings are not growing to a standard pace...

shat might be wrong ? what can I do ?

As long as the tip of the leaves doesn’t get brown or wilt I think it is okay. Water only with soft (rain) water but don’t leave any water in the saucer.

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Pal Meir

Your Lyto seedlings look really very fine and their growth is not slow, but rather good. You can compare it to my seedlings as they were looking when ca. 3, 4, and 5 months old (germination from 2014-02-14 to 2014-03-21). Your seedlings germinated after Xmas and are now 4+ months old and are looking like mine from end of June 2014:

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Mohsen
3 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

Your Lyto seedlings look really very fine and their growth is not slow, but rather good. You can compare it to my seedlings as they were looking when ca. 3, 4, and 5 months old (germination from 2014-02-14 to 2014-03-21). Your seedlings germinated after Xmas and are now 4+ months old and are looking like mine from end of June 2014:

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That's comforting Pal :) , they only thing is that I dont use rain water , and had to use Sydney water mostly ( I leave one night so if there is any chlorine to be dispersed ) ...

I am thinking of installing rain water tank in near future though ...

BTW, How about give them liquid fertilizer and seaweed from now ? is it suggested or is too soon?

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Pal Meir
13 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

That's comforting Pal :) , they only thing is that I dont use rain water , and had to use Sydney water mostly ( I leave one night so if there is any chlorine to be dispersed ) ...

I am thinking of installing rain water tank in near future though ...

BTW, How about give them liquid fertilizer and seaweed from now ? is it suggested or is too soon?

Lytos don’t like hard water, so if Sydney’s water is not salty or hard it should be okay. I think it is still a bit too early for fertilizer, but when you use it use it more diluted and not so often. Later when the palms get bigger you may use it as recommended.

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gtsteve

"A Water “hardness” is mostly a measure of the Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) concentration in.
milligrams per litre. Below 60 mg/L water is considered soft and above that level it is considered hard.

For Sydney's water the average reading is around 57 mg/L so the water is considered soft. "

Per Sydney water website.

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Mohsen
On 4/10/2016, 8:21:44, Mohsen said:

Update : still alive :)

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update : 11-5-2016

I can see the 3rd leaf appearing now

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nitsua0895

I just potted up a recently germinated Adonidia Merrillii seedling. Do these have any specific needs? 

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Mohsen

@Pal Meir, I just noticed today that a part of the root came out of Pot's bottom , should I do anything? this is the biggest pot I have and I place the seed on top so root could have more media and soil to grow .

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Pal Meir
52 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

@Pal Meir, I just noticed today that a part of the root came out of Pot's bottom , should I do anything? this is the biggest pot I have and I place the seed on top so root could have more media and soil to grow .

Don’t worry, your palm is happy,:greenthumb: that’s totally normal. :)

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Mohsen
32 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

Don’t worry, your palm is happy,:greenthumb: that’s totally normal. :)

Thanks Pal,

BTW, after how many bifid leaves ,it will have a frond?

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Pal Meir
7 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Thanks Pal,

BTW, after how many bifid leaves ,it will have a frond?

I don’t remember how it was with my Cocos, but it depends also on the environmental conditions: the more sun, the earlier pinnate, I think.

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Pal Meir
On 8.5.2016, 02:58:25, Mohsen said:

@Pal Meir, I think something wrong here...after months not weeks and still no 2nd-3rd leaf of my Lytocaryum Hybrids not appearing   :(  ...

and generally I think all of my seedlings are not growing to a standard pace...

shat might be wrong ? what can I do ?

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Update please! No 2nd leaf? Do they still look like L insigne? B)

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Mohsen
16 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

Update please! No 2nd leaf? Do they still look like L insigne? B)

They are almost the same... But i noticed that My L W s having the second leaf as pinnate , is it normal for them ?

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Pal Meir
4 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

They are almost the same... But i noticed that My L W s having the second leaf as pinnate , is it normal for them ?

For LWs it is normal that in most cases the 1st or 2nd leaf will be pinnate:

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Mohsen

All seeds and seedlings are in my 3 not- heated greenhouse now in winterimage.thumb.jpeg.6579822e7f0d4e24725be03...resting I guess to be ready for spring...

it will provide 4-5 degree of temp higher than outside and I hope that provide enough warmth ...

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Mohsen

Coconut seedling update : 1 July 2016

still alive and kicking :)

the 3rd leaf is opening ...

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Pal Meir
19 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Coconut seedling update : 1 July 2016

still alive and kicking :)

the 3rd leaf is opening ...

Looking very happy! :greenthumb: Don’t forget watering! And when it’s getting warmer coconuts love even wet feet. My coconut was always in a deep saucer with ca. 10 cm water, but I was using a pure mineral soil mix (granite grus) which didn’t get soggy or mouldy.

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