Up and coming garden in Vista California / blank canvanas

[Got Palms]

Incredible Josh u r putting together a garden most people can only dream of maybe on day I can come by for a visit when I'm in the area again Great job.

[Josh-O]

5 hours ago, Got Palms said:

Incredible Josh u r putting together a garden most people can only dream of maybe on day I can come by for a visit when I'm in the area again Great job.

Thanks Sergo ,

You can come by anytime you are in the area. I'm there most days slaving away.

[Moose]

On 12/12/2015, 12:19:10, Josh-O said:

a very large dypsis canaliculata.  I'm still crying ..booo hooo

 

Oh dear God, you scared me. I thought you lost your Dypsis 'black stem' .  

[Josh-O]

1 hour ago, Moose said:

Oh dear God, you scared me. I thought you lost your Dypsis 'black stem' .  

No, that's still alive and kicking

 But, I just bought a nice 1 gal as a back up plant.

I will unlock the secrete sooner or later

[Tassie_Troy1971]

I will unlock the secrete sooner or later LMAO !

[Josh-O]

16 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

I will unlock the secrete sooner or later LMAO !

[Ben in Norcal]

12 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

I don't know what you guys are secreting, but keep it to yourselves!! 

[Josh-O]

7 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

I don't know what you guys are secreting, but keep it to yourselves!! 

 

hunker down! here comes some cold weather

[trioderob]

On 12/13/2015, 7:09:39, Josh-O said:

No, that's still alive and kicking

 But, I just bought a nice 1 gal as a back up plant.

I will unlock the secrete sooner or later

"I unlocked the secret to growing the dypsis blackstem" - Trioderob

my am now inextricably linked to that quote for all times..................................................

[nachocarl]

39 minutes ago, trioderob said:

"I unlocked the secret to growing the dypsis blackstem" - Trioderob

my am now inextricably linked to that quote for all times..................................................

There are worse things such as Carl Killer of Dypsis ^TM...........................

Carl:        9

Dypsis:    3

 

[Moose]

4 hours ago, trioderob said:

"I unlocked the secret to growing the dypsis blackstem" - Trioderob

my am now inextricably linked to that quote for all times..................................................

Like "it ain't over til the fat lady sings"

By the way Josh, up to page 12 and no concrete poured yet ? How many more holes you got augered ? You can fill those holes with compost until your ready to plant.

[Josh-O]

On 12/15/2015, 4:44:45, Moose said:

Like "it ain't over til the fat lady sings"

By the way Josh, up to page 12 and no concrete poured yet ? How many more holes you got augered ? You can fill those holes with compost until your ready to plant.

I just got my last concrete quote yesterday.

Crazy expensive to say the least.

Gonna start pouring pathways in 3 weeks time.

I have been focusing on canopy trees this last week. Got a bunch more cool species planted.

I'll post pics ASAP.

[Josh-O]

plopped in a very nice 15 gal Sabal Pumos the other day. This is not a very common palm for our southern Californian gardens.

enjoy the pictures  

 

[Josh-O]

Wellllll,

I decided to spruce the driveway entrance to the vista garden and future nursery.

I know I know, It's winter and you shouldn't plant anything...BUT, I like to bend the rules a bit.

here are a few pictures of the drive way when you enter the back side of the property.

enjoy  

 before 

digging holes

 laying out the palms

 

 

[Josh-O]

a nice 15 gal livistona nitida

a very nice 15 gal sabal blackburniana about to meet its new home

 digging a hole for a coconut queen

[Josh-O]

now I'm almost  done with the driveway

here are some after pictures I took last week.

I planted a total of 15 BIG 15 gal's to line both sides of the driveway.

here the line up:

coconut queen hybrid ( syagrus romanzoffiana x schizophylla F1 ) qty 10

livistona rigida qty 2

sabal domingensis qty 2

sabal blackburniana qty 2

brahea clara qty 2 

and counting  

 

In about 5-6 yrs this should be an awe factor when you come roaring up to the place.

 irrigation lines are now complete

 say hello to my future "frankenbrahea"

[Yunder Wækraus]

I love it!

[Josh-O]

7 minutes ago, Yunder Wækraus said:

I love it!

It was a labor of love. My back is still hurting after those 2 days of planting  

The cold beer I drank afterwards did make it feel a little better.

[Briank]

If you ever need some help digging I am available Most Sunday's and Wednesday.  Just holler.  I'm cheap figure 1 bud light per hole. 

[Josh-O]

4 hours ago, Briank said:

If you ever need some help digging I am available Most Sunday's and Wednesday.  Just holler.  I'm cheap figure 1 bud light per hole. 

I can manage that pay rate 

The only concern I have is that I may drink your wages first 

[Sandy Loam]

 

What a difference, Josh!  So, is there going to be a nursery selling plants in the back with a "demonstration garden" in the front?  .....complete with tiki bar, of course (all nurseries should have a bar!).

BTW, if the cement quotes are too crazy for the sidewalk, you could just do it yourself if you have the time.  It would be a backbreaking pain, but you could do it segment by segment yourself probably: dig out the earth, build the wooden frame for each small part of the sidewalk, throw down the rebar, mix the colored cement in your wheelbarrow (get mixer end which fits your drill), pour and shimmy-level the cement off with another 2x4, let dry, rip out the wooden frame, and move on to next segment.  It would take forever and wouldn't look like a professional job, but if you have the time and want to save the money....

 

 

 

 

[Ben in Norcal]

Josh, you mention all of the Coco Queens/Super Parrots you are planting - one of my favorites!  As you know I have 6 or 7 of them up here, including a little guy from you!  You state they are "syagrus romanzoffiana x schizophylla F1."  Are you positive it is that way around?  They have more the schizo look to them, so my hypothesis was that the schizo was the mother plant, carrying through more of those genes, and that the father/pollen donor was the romanzoffiana.  I have no idea if this is true, just my hypothesis.  

Do you know for definite the queen is the mother?

Looking great, BTW!

[Josh-O]

11 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

 

What a difference, Josh!  So, is there going to be a nursery selling plants in the back with a "demonstration garden" in the front?  .....complete with tiki bar, of course (all nurseries should have a bar!).

BTW, if the cement quotes are too crazy for the sidewalk, you could just do it yourself if you have the time.  It would be a backbreaking pain, but you could do it segment by segment yourself probably: dig out the earth, build the wooden frame for each small part of the sidewalk, throw down the rebar, mix the colored cement in your wheelbarrow (get mixer end which fits your drill), pour and shimmy-level the cement off with another 2x4, let dry, rip out the wooden frame, and move on to next segment.  It would take forever and wouldn't look like a professional job, but if you have the time and want to save the money....

 

 

 

 

I've always wanted to go to a nursery with a tiki bar and a garden showroom. I for see some PSSC events being held there in the future.

I'm still in the process of getting quotes for the pathways. I may do all the retaining walls myself with some sort of stacking block to save a few grand$$. Time is my only enemy since I have a real job and the palm thing is still only a hobby.

[Josh-O]

3 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Josh, you mention all of the Coco Queens/Super Parrots you are planting - one of my favorites!  As you know I have 6 or 7 of them up here, including a little guy from you!  You state they are "syagrus romanzoffiana x schizophylla F1."  Are you positive it is that way around?  They have more the schizo look to them, so my hypothesis was that the schizo was the mother plant, carrying through more of those genes, and that the father/pollen donor was the romanzoffiana.  I have no idea if this is true, just my hypothesis.  

Do you know for definite the queen is the mother?

Looking great, BTW!

good catch, I got it mixed up. It's exactly like you said. This schizophylla is the mother plant and daddy is a poor old pollen donor  dam dyslexia!! ..lol

 

when this hybrid matures it makes an excellent coconut loo-a-like statement piece. I've always wanted to line a drive way or sidewalk with these palms. when I got the chance I jumped on it immediately.

[Ben in Norcal]

4 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

good catch, I got it mixed up. It's exactly like you said. This schizophylla is the mother plant and daddy is a poor old pollen donor  dam dyslexia!! ..lol

 

when this hybrid matures it makes an excellent coconut loo-a-like statement piece. I've always wanted to line a drive way or sidewalk with these palms. when I got the chance I jumped on it immediately.

Got it, good to know, thanks man...that was my hypothesis but I previously did not know definitively!

[nachocarl]

On ‎12‎/‎18‎/‎2015‎ ‎8‎:‎06‎:‎17‎, Josh-O said:

8 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

I've always wanted to go to a nursery with a tiki bar and a garden showroom. I for see some PSSC events being held there in the future.

I'm still in the process of getting quotes for the pathways. I may do all the retaining walls myself with some sort of stacking block to save a few grand$$. Time is my only enemy since I have a real job and the palm thing is still only a hobby.

It was a labor of love. My back is still hurting after those 2 days of planting  

The cold beer I drank afterwards did make it feel a little better.

How about a tiki show case room too?  A couple of mai tais to loosen up the customer (me) and voila! There goes that nice Dypsis and fertility god carving right out the door.

[Josh-O]

On December 8, 2015 at 12:07:27 PM, doranakandawatta said:

Whats the happiness you have seeing this Palmetum taking forms and life?

This new garden has brought me great joy thus far, although It's not even close to being done

 

8 hours ago, nachocarl said:

How about a tiki show case room too?  A couple of mai tais to loosen up the customer (me) and voila! There goes that nice Dypsis and fertility god carving right out the door.

Carl, we are to much alike. It's been a good ride since tiki oasis and all the beers guzzled at Mother Earth Brewery. The plan is to turn the 650sqft guess house into a tiki bar office. That will be a diffrent thread.

[Josh-O]

gonna hunker down for the cold front coming in this weekend. I bought some frost cloth to cover up some of my more sensitive palms. Anyone have experience with using frost cloth?

[Sandy Loam]

I have seen front cloth for sale and it looks way too thin to be effective --- and way overpriced too!  Some people just stock up on cheap and ugly old blankets from Salvation Army or Goodwill instead.

Man, you have put so much time and sweat into that place!  My compliments.  My wife would never let me get away with it....the time part, that is.  She would kill me (I have young kids too, so...).

 

[Josh-O]

7 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

I have seen front cloth for sale and it looks way too thin to be effective --- and way overpriced too!  Some people just stock up on cheap and ugly old blankets from Salvation Army or Goodwill instead.

Man, you have put so much time and sweat into that place!  My compliments.  My wife would never let me get away with it....the time part, that is.  She would kill me (I have young kids too, so...).

 

I hear ya with the young kid thing. I have two kids my self. It's a fine balance of time and money and more time.

I've never used frost cloth before. I consulted a couple places before I made the purchase and it seems that 1 ounce frost cloth was the best suit for our type of cold fronts.

 

[Josh-O]

GHOSTS IN THE GARDEN.

I decided to cover up a few of the more tender palms at the vista garden the other day. I'm guessing I really didn't need to but I wanted to see how long it would take to cover up 20 small to very large palms as a test run. This will help me understand the scope of work when a real cold front comes down to San Diego. The forecast is calling calling for 33F. That will put the garden to at least 30F for 1 night possibly 2. The garden is located 405' ft high on a south facing hill. Sun hits the garden at 7:10 like clockwork. Cold is always a very short duration and the air drainage is very good. This is the first time I have ever covered up a palm tree. At my carlsbad garden where I live  I'm always 10-12 degrees warmer along the coastal belt than the inland vista garden.

 

since this is my first time using 1oz frost cloth, any techniques or  suggestions would be appreciated.

 

enjoy the ghostly pic's

copernicia berteroana BEFORE

AFTER

 

[Josh-O]

 Teddy bear BEFORE

 AFTER

15 gal copernicia fallaensis

[Josh-O]

Dypsis Pembana BEFORE

Dypsis Pembana AFTER

[Josh-O]

 getting ready to cover up a bottle

[Josh-O]

Hers some other palms I covered up.

 

[Yunder Wækraus]

2 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Hers some other palms I covered up.

 

You're in such a moderate area. I think you might decide to let the chips fall where they may and NEVER cover anything in the future.

[Ben in Norcal]

Looking pretty muddy out there.  Here too - I have a billion weeds coming up everywhere.  

[Josh-O]

1 hour ago, Yunder Wækraus said:

You're in such a moderate area. I think you might decide to let the chips fall where they may and NEVER cover anything in the future.

that was my initial thought as well. I wanted to see how long it would cover stuff up since I have never done this before.

Nothing like getting a little practice in  

[Josh-O]

39 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Looking pretty muddy out there.  Here too - I have a billion weeds coming up everywhere.  

muddy for sure. things dry out pretty fast in between rain showers.

I nuke the weeds with round up 2-3  weeks after a rain event. pretty darn effective tactic for me.

Once I mulch the garden I shouldn't have much of a weed problem anymore

[Ben in Norcal]

1 minute ago, Josh-O said:

muddy for sure. things dry out pretty fast in between rain showers.

I nuke the weeds with round up 2-3  weeks after a rain event. pretty darn effective tactic for me.

Once I mulch the garden I shouldn't have much of a weed problem anymore

Yep - my front yard is mulched, very few weeds.  Back can't really be mulched because of steep slopes, and that's where I have to spray.  I'd prefer not to use glyophosate, but there's really no way around it when an absolute carpet of weeds pops up this time of year.