Butia ID please

[Jamesasb]

Hi, I have seedlings from last year and seeds from this year from this Butia.

Can anyone suggest which species it is?

Thanks

James

Edited August 14, 2015 by Jamesasb

[Brad Mondel]

Do you have a picture of the seeds? It's most likely a Butia Odorata.

[SailorBold]

I get confused with Butia.. sorry i couldnt help

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Looks like an odorata to me. It should have perfectly round seeds.

[Jamesasb]

heres a pic of the seeds next to some odorata seeds.

[Brad Mondel]

I still think it's Odorata. There is variation in this species seeds. You can rule out Butia Yatay and Catarinensis because they have football shaped seeds.

[Alberto]

How is the spathe?

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Still looks like odorata. Is the spathe fuzzy? Eriospatha usually have much smaller seed although roundish. Ive seen some large odorata seed that was almost the size of jubaea.

[Brad Mondel]

It's a possibility it could be an eriospatha but we won't know unless you've seen the spathe.

[Jamesasb]

I'll try and get pics of the spathe.

The owner is saying he purchased it as butia sp gigantea. so we should see a fuzzy spatha?

Also the trunk doesn't look that wide to me, arent these supposed to be 1 metre thick trunks?

Its difficult to find accurately labelled butia these days!!

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

1M is a huge trunk for a butia. Only the largest odorata in perfect growing condition come close to 1M trunk from what I have seen and that is with the boots still on. Even then the largest ones tend to taper a bit after 3-4' of clear trunk.

[Jamesasb]

According to the supplier, the parent spatha is smooth and red. I asked for a pic

Edited August 17, 2015 by Jamesasb

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

It is an Odorata then.

[Jamesasb]

Thanks guys.