Materials Need For Germination..

[Kris 1,345]

Dear Zac  

thanks for the comments and still iam unable to have good

germination rate for the washy.filirera's  

sorry man for replying so late.since your a close buddy,so

thought of using this reply to bump up this thread..

Love,

Kris  

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Dear KamiPalms  

thanks man,iam very glad you took time to added your tips &

trick for a better germination..

and hope more guys like you will join this thread to help all

who are not proffesionals in this field.

and kami i must say even i boil the medium before using it,

but i did not mention it,since some may overdo it.and hurt themselves in this process.and if you see my baggie bags

they have given moisture,watch it closely you will see that  

Even i rarely use chemical,since the air is freash and hot,except in winters which is a small period of 1 & half

months only(usually our rainy season is considered

cooler months  

Thanks a lot kami,

Kris  

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on earlier stills you would have seen me put 3 germinated seeds in 3 old terracota pots.

of which yesterday one is putting out sprouting spear...

and here is a still of it _

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a close-up of the above still itself !  

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this one is orange birds of paradise_once they get germinated

in the baggie bag its gently shifted to indugual pots or mineral

water bottles.here is a still _

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this on is Butia which is around 3 months old...

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Okay then,todays topic for explaination is Sabal Palmetto or

more popularly called as cabagge palms,common to floridia

coast !

lets see the step by step procedure that i follow once the seed is germinated within the baggie.i believe in visuals than

notes...

here we will start form stage one_

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Here is a still which shows that the roots have mingled and are screaning for a new indugual containers...

yes yes i understand what to do now ! i will give you visuals on that procedure too !

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the baggie with lots of sprouts & root mingles need to be

cut open !

lets see how its done !

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after that vertical & horizontal cuttinf procedure_this how it will look_

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now gently try to spread it out,if not possible.don't worry

just put the entire mass minus the plastic bag into a

bucket of water(kindly use water of room temperature,

and also refrain from using fungicide or any root trainers

to these young sprouts)_

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now spread these sprouts on a plate and meanwhile get all

the other needed stuffs ready_

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Now lets get our soil ready_this contains washed river sand,

some red sand some coil dust_

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Now lets get our containers ready_in my case i apted for

plastic mineral water bottles,just to keep the cost down !

these bottles were prepared with drain holes at the bottom,

its has now about 4 to 5 holes to fecilitate easy sweepage of

excess water_

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Now label the bottles with a water proof marker pen_

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Now gently take the new sprouts indugually and place it in

indugual containers one by one.but please do this process

with atmost care !

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Now after placing the young once in the container and also

filling gently with the soil shown in previous still.

and start watering the containers with a tea kettle or any

specilised watering tools that you have.but check that all

air locks and spaces gets filled with the soil inside the bottle,

this can be easily done since out bottles are see through !

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Now to ariel shots of the same_

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i know you want to ask now is what to do with the medium

in this case its Sphyngum moss_Damp off ! and all those

non germinated seeds that are in the medium or in the

bucket of water that we used to seperate the sprouts.

all you need to do is take that need baggie cover and refill

the medium with along the non germinated seeds.and

kindly write as to what seeds are they.todays date and number of seeds that are once again reused in this

baggie.and once again keep this pouch in that very same

location in that warm dark room or germinating tray or bed.

and wait...in my future still i will show how even those reused seeds have also germinated.so never throw them

or take them lightly.all they need is some time.

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Dear Folks !

i hope you enjoyed listening to me as much as i enjoyed

telling you how we did it again  

until we meet with some new varities of seeds germination,

its bye from Kris & his associates,and have a good night sleep

with lots of palms in them..

Lots of love,

Kris  

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now to some more stills of the reused seeds which sprouted after a week_yes the same sabal palmetto lot that i explained in the above discussion !

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Now lets see the root section grouth down below in the bag !

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Now to bismarkia silver forum seeds that were reused

oce again.and mind you as long as the seeds dont rot or

float there are 75% chance of survival.so dont throw

away the seeds in garbage_Please !

here are few stills of it_

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now to a arieal shot of this baggie bag_

[Kamipalms 10]

Well done Kris!

One pointer I would suggest is to completely remove the Coir from the seedling roots before potting on ( post # 56).

I've found if too much is left, the young root zone stays too wet and you know what this can cause.........

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Dear Jason  

in post 57 the medium attached to the roots are sphangum

moss_damp-off ! from U.S.and after even dipping in the

bucket of water that material kept sticking.so i felt their is

no need to stress those babies any further..

but iam very happy about your suggestion on my work.iam a

person who take in any suggestions & critisium,since it helps

to grow and avoid repeating the mistakes again.

and i request other members too to share your thoughts,and

correct me if iam wrong.since iam preety open to changes..

Once again Jason thanks man !

Love,

Kris  

[BobbyinNY 7]

Kris,

Excellent tutorial... I have had absolutely NO luck trying to germinate seeds at all... but then again all I did was put them in a small pot like I would tomatoes and expect them to sprout on the windowsill. I have a ton of Roebelleni seeds that I tried to sprout several times - but nothing..

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Dear Bobby  

thanks for your comments.even i did exactly the same as you

mentioned for palm seeds germination before becoming a

memeber in this fentastic forum.

but one advantage that i have here is the climate,so i do not use any heaters or thermal beds etc. The first floor in our house get really hot and all i have to do is put some fresh seeds into a baggie or container with moist coir dust or spanghyam moss form canada_popularly sold as DAMP-OFF ! and leave those seeds air tight in that dark hot room.every 3 weeks_bang..

some babies just pop-up !

Bobby dont give up heart_just try it again.i initally rotted

lots of seeds.since i did not know how to proceed.

now you have me to help you out,then whats the problem

buddy.let's give it a try.

Thanks & Love,

Kris  

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Dear Folks  

i want to bring in some correction regarding using of water

bottles ! and one respected friend in this forum_Mr.Steve

from So Cal pointed out the difficulty one will be put throught

in using mineral water bottles.but this method works for me

in india because its really hot and in just 3 to 4 months in

full sunshine the plastic bottles disintegrate or fragmatise

like a egg shell.but this will not be the case for people

living in cooler regions of the world..

So here is beautiful link on seedling pots & Containers,the useful thread was started by Mr.Sol_(nomolos).

http://palmtalk.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboar...t=ST;f=1;t=4872

here there are some of the finiest plastic containers links

avaliable_they are...

http://www.stuewe.com/

http://www.gardencityplastics.com/propagation.htm

the above two sites were introduced by _

Palmtrafficante,Nomolos & Phil..

Thanks Guys,since information without proper seedling

pots & containers will totally make this thread a useless one !

And Dear Steve thanks for timely correction...

Love,

Kris  

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Dear Folks !

here are some seedling containers that i have,just few i have

but very rarely used.i got these along with few young palms

so i actually did not buy it.as those items are avaliable here  

here are the stills_

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this one is with my assistant holding the same sized container for you guys to emagine the size !

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Dear Folks  

in the earlier post i had shown a bismarkia's new sprout but

i over looked in giving it proper protection from the Squrieals

attacks are quite common.here you will see that i have closed the mouth of the pot with steel mesh avaliable in all

construction material shop_

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another still one of the same pot !

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Lets see some of the young sprouts in various sabal Sp_

the first one we are seeing here is my favouriate amoung all

the sabal's_its SABAL RIVERSIDE..

Just look at the site of its balde,its hardly 3 months old..

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Now lets see the sabal palmetto sprouts_

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Now to sabal Mexican_

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Here in the above stills you see yellow colored powder,its

contact based fungicide based on broadspectrum.and do

not use copper or sulphur based fungicide since it can be too

hot to handle for these young ones !

here is a still of that fungicide_it has the details in them..

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Now lets see the bismarkia silver seeds that has germinated,

these are old seeds that have germinated quite late.but

sleeping as those dead.these guys germinated at room

temperatures at around 87 to 91 degree farenheat..

they have germinated through the REUSE Method !

here are the still and also what i have done to those babies

in stills to come_

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now as i have told you on previous occasions that take a

deep pot or container.plug the drain holes using net like

filters,small pebbles or like me coco fiber.and them fill it

with soil.here for a change i have used washed river sand

and as the layer on the top is sand mixed with coco dust,

since its hot around here so for the sake of moisture retention i have added some coco peat like material to the top soil of the pot.

but while the filling process please be gentle,if not the root

will get damaged !  

Now to some visuals of this bizie lady seeds placing into the deep rooting pots or containers..

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Now applying some contact based fungicide to the finished

pot_