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Dypsis sp. 'Black Stem'


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No secret here!  4th year in a row setting seed.  Still in a 25g in the container ranch :shaka-2:6038DCA9-9672-462D-ACE1-A41AC85333EF.thumb.jpeg.6fd6cec10660e3830ef1948ba6426a99.jpegC185C183-1076-4F1F-A683-EC0AAE47036D.thumb.jpeg.eba5b0f2492040874b7f9a970db0a6f3.jpegFA14261F-BB25-46A4-99C5-88FC1531CAB3.thumb.jpeg.b43aee45f13f5411ac6e4eabc7194ef9.jpeg89989AC8-E8DD-47F1-B52B-6D9C477B9522.thumb.jpeg.8e07dcaad63c09f2b3caeba0f0ae4560.jpeg

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24 minutes ago, Vari805 said:

No secret here!  4th year in a row setting seed.  Still in a 25g in the container ranch :shaka-2:6038DCA9-9672-462D-ACE1-A41AC85333EF.thumb.jpeg.6fd6cec10660e3830ef1948ba6426a99.jpegC185C183-1076-4F1F-A683-EC0AAE47036D.thumb.jpeg.eba5b0f2492040874b7f9a970db0a6f3.jpegFA14261F-BB25-46A4-99C5-88FC1531CAB3.thumb.jpeg.b43aee45f13f5411ac6e4eabc7194ef9.jpeg89989AC8-E8DD-47F1-B52B-6D9C477B9522.thumb.jpeg.8e07dcaad63c09f2b3caeba0f0ae4560.jpeg

I have 3 seedlings from this plant.  They are slow growing.

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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42 minutes ago, Vari805 said:

No secret here!  4th year in a row setting seed.  Still in a 25g in the container ranch :shaka-2:6038DCA9-9672-462D-ACE1-A41AC85333EF.thumb.jpeg.6fd6cec10660e3830ef1948ba6426a99.jpegC185C183-1076-4F1F-A683-EC0AAE47036D.thumb.jpeg.eba5b0f2492040874b7f9a970db0a6f3.jpegFA14261F-BB25-46A4-99C5-88FC1531CAB3.thumb.jpeg.b43aee45f13f5411ac6e4eabc7194ef9.jpeg89989AC8-E8DD-47F1-B52B-6D9C477B9522.thumb.jpeg.8e07dcaad63c09f2b3caeba0f0ae4560.jpeg

Nice job Carlos. Was this a Soledad plant or one you grew up? 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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-- Alfred Austin

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I am gratified to see that Carlos (Vari805) has posted images of a colorful adult plant, as I have none.  :greenthumb:

 My only point is that, in my experience, all Dypsis baronii are colorful as seedling plants.  Most of them will lose this strong coloration as they mature. Here are two images of my two adult plants, both were colorful as seedlings but now have just a remnant of peach color at the top of the leafbase.  Mine were chosen for color as small plants, so I guess perhaps one should choose instead for vigor and robust growth.

Next, I show four seedlings from different provenance, all showing equal dark coloration.  It remains to be seen if they retain this coloration when larger.   At this point If someone were to switch the labels I doubt that I would notice!   :winkie:

  Bill Austin, can you post an image of your adult D. baronii 'Black Stem' ?   thanks !

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@Bill Austinwhere are you? And pictures of your black-stem?

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To me, it’s the colors of the leaf base and crown that makes the baronii attractive.  Even the standard baronii is pretty to me (pictured):

The black stem has more color contrast with the rust red and black stem with the white glaucous crown is what has me growing it.

 

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So is what @Darold Petty saying that there's no such thing as a Dypsis sp. "Black Stem?" It's really just a Baronii and some of them get really cool colors? Seeds from colorful Baroniis that look like Black Stem won't necessarily turn into that?

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3 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

So is what @Darold Petty saying that there's no such thing as a Dypsis sp. "Black Stem?" It's really just a Baronii and some of them get really cool colors? Seeds from colorful Baroniis that look like Black Stem won't necessarily turn into that?

My belief it is a variant/cultivar of baronii.  Didn’t a botanist in Madagascar say that? 

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Matt, I only say that they all have color as juveniles.  Some, like black petiole and black stem, may hold this color as adults.  (At least I hope so!)  :mrlooney:   

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C9839F4C-532C-42BD-89FC-059EFA57AA38.thumb.jpeg.5d55bba2c84baed9f4e9ba8bced0bc94.jpegHere is my adult doesn’t do much for me but like Darold said they can all look different as adults it’s a crap shoot.!

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Nice pics fellas!  This palm is interesting.  It goes through color phases, depending on time of year and temperatures.  Mine is growing under 50% shade cloth.  I want to plant it, and probably in a tad bit more sun than it currently is in, but I have a feeling it won't do great in full sun here in SoCal.  It's fun to see the palm grow over the years, and flower and set seed.  But in all honesty, I have other palms that 'float my boat' more than this one.  Not to sound unappreciative, but it just doesn't have the wow factor like others that I enjoy growing.

Len this was an RS palm.  I do have 1 of yours thru Phil, as a 2g now,  and a couple seedlings from my tree.  

For the longest time this was the hottest ticket item.  But I have found hybrids seam to be more interesting for me, and most have hybrid vigor, growing fast and robust.  

Baronii is a strange complex, like Dypsis in general.  I have a baronii seedling for 10+ years now, and all it does in multiply, not grow any bigger.  I have the other RS baronii 'no petiole' which is another great barnoii.  At any rate, it's the wonderful world of Dypsis mysteries that I enjoy.

Happy Growing!

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On 10/9/2021 at 10:42 PM, HolyNewBee said:

So, is there any differences between D. baronii 'Black petiole' in RPS and D. baronii 'Black stem' in palmpedia?

I don't know, but I 'bump' this question !    I have RPS 'black petiole' and Bill Anderson 'black stem'.   As juveniles they look exactly the same.

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1 hour ago, Darold Petty said:

I don't know, but I 'bump' this question !    I have RPS 'black petiole' and Bill Anderson 'black stem'.   As juveniles they look exactly the same.

Thanks! Then I think I should have one.

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