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butia x coco nucifera

corsafafa

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Alberto Grand Master

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Judging from the morphology of the seed Lytocaryum (insigne & weddellianum) seems to be closest to Cocos: Both have only one seed in a fruit (Butia & Jubaea up to 3) and both have hollow seeds. So I would propose a hybrid Lyto x Coco. Has anybody tried yet?

:winkie: I´ll try it.....

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Judging from the morphology of the seed Lytocaryum (insigne & weddellianum) seems to be closest to Cocos: Both have only one seed in a fruit (Butia & Jubaea up to 3) and both have hollow seeds. So I would propose a hybrid Lyto x Coco. Has anybody tried yet?

:winkie: I´ll try it.....

Good luck! I think there are many characteristics common between Lytocaryum (only: weddellianum & insigne) and Cocos. Only the size is a little bit different …

My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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MKIVRYAN Community Regular

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I was able to get a picture of one with Bigfoot in the frame as well. Unfortunately the picture came out blurry.

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I was able to get a picture of one with Bigfoot in the frame as well. Unfortunately the picture came out blurry.

Nice! My only picture is of a chupacabra watering my cocos hybrid for me. But my dog ate the digital picture.

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Where are those Butia x Attalea hybrids? Can you imagine a giant cold tolerant palm?

That would be great, we could really use nice tropical looking alternatives to the overused Sabal, date and Washingtonias here in the FL Panhandle. The Mule still hasn't been utilized up here almost at all, have only seen 1 in this area, an extremely young specimen that had just been planted in someone's yard (and in a space way too small for its eventual size)....

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Brian Bruning Community Regular

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They've tried to cross Parajubaea and Cocos and Cocos with Jubaeopsis caffra (Pondoland Palm) and so far, to my knowledge, no success.

Brian Bruning

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Brian, that would be an outstanding hybrid if it ever took...

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Alberto Grand Master

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I have some L. weddelianum and also L. hoehnei flowering. If I can get some pollen from the coastal plane , I´ll try this hybrization

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I put a couple ButiaXLytocaryum in the ground last year I received from Patric and they are now going pinnate. I'm not sure of their cold tolerance, but never the less I'll test them here on the Gulf coast. Anyone else growing these?

Paul Gallop

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I put a couple ButiaXLytocaryum in the ground last year I received from Patric and they are now going pinnate. I'm not sure of their cold tolerance, but never the less I'll test them here on the Gulf coast. Anyone else growing these?

I have this, as well as a Syagrus x Lytocaryum. Not sure which way round the crosses are, but both are from Patric this spring.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Alberto Grand Master

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I put a couple ButiaXLytocaryum in the ground last year I received from Patric and they are now going pinnate. I'm not sure of their cold tolerance, but never the less I'll test them here on the Gulf coast. Anyone else growing these?

I tried to cross my Butia eriospatha with Lytocaryum weddelianum but I there was not one single fruit developing. All aborted.....

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I put a couple ButiaXLytocaryum in the ground last year I received from Patric and they are now going pinnate. I'm not sure of their cold tolerance, but never the less I'll test them here on the Gulf coast. Anyone else growing these?

I have this, as well as a Syagrus x Lytocaryum. Not sure which way round the crosses are, but both are from Patric this spring.

Have you got a photos. I'm very curious to see how it looks.

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I put a couple ButiaXLytocaryum in the ground last year I received from Patric and they are now going pinnate. I'm not sure of their cold tolerance, but never the less I'll test them here on the Gulf coast. Anyone else growing these?

I have this, as well as a Syagrus x Lytocaryum. Not sure which way round the crosses are, but both are from Patric this spring.

Have you got a photos. I'm very curious to see how it looks.

I can take some - let's start a new thread. Take pics of yours and I'll add mine this weekend! Both are young plants...

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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On 1/3/2016, 5:05:38, corsafafa said:

anyone know what's new hybrid patric schaffer has in production?

 

E-mail him and ask for his list: coolhybrids@wildblue.net

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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You know when a thread is 3 pages deep yet no one can produce a photo of one, the subject does not exist.

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Zeeth Grand Master

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8 hours ago, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

You know when a thread is 3 pages deep yet no one can produce a photo of one, the subject does not exist.

Palmtalk user Mauser had one that looked promising, but he hasn't been on here in a long time.

 

From this thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/29228-butia-x-cocos-n/&page=1

On July 14, 2011 at 05:00:35, MAUSER said:

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I made several experiments with pollen from the Canary Islands... Butia eriosphata X cocos, got crossed with this result. Only one.

Don´t I venture to say that is a true "Butia X coconuts".

 

The experts can give their opinions.

 

 

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Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Alberto Grand Master

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This palm Mauser posted is really promising! Wondering how it looks today!

I have (had) a big Butia x Cocos and yesterday i was trying to photograph it from the best angle, when suddenly an UFO abducted this rarity. "They" probably will study this weird creature and maybe released it one day again in my garden. We will have wait untill then. I was lucky to make a (not blurry) photo of  the theft :unsure:

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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we could possibly cross it with a jubaea but it would have a thicc trunk

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10 hours ago, climate change virginia said:

we could possibly cross it with a jubaea but it would have a thicc trunk

They look nice with thick trunks.

Nothing to say here. 

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