Free Chamadorea radicalis seed!

[foxtail 328]

7 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Mine sprouted in 3 weeks

Wow, that's fast. Which method you used?

[JubaeaMan138 857]

I did them in soil in a germination box temp around 82 degrees

[_Keith 744]

Pardon, if I missed it somewhere along the thread, but is it necessary to clean the seeds?  It is optional, but helps, are absolutely necessary.   I have a few of my own to germinate.

 

[Pando 4,547]

6 minutes ago, _Keith said:

Pardon, if I missed it somewhere along the thread, but is it necessary to clean the seeds?  It is optional, but helps, are absolutely necessary.   I have a few of my own to germinate.

The way I see it, no one is cleaning the seeds in nature (except perhaps some animals passing them through the digestive tract). The fruit gives important nutrients to the seedling once it's in the ground. It also provides an incentive to the animals/birds to spread the seed.

I believe that cleaning is necessary for germination in a sterile medium in controlled conditions to avoid fungus that can thrive on the decaying fruit. But I don't think it's necessary to clean the seeds if you're just sticking them to a community pot outside.

[_Keith 744]

6 minutes ago, Pando said:

The way I see it, no one is cleaning the seeds in nature (except perhaps some animals passing them through the digestive tract). The fruit gives important nutrients to the seedling once it's in the ground. It also provides an incentive to the animals/birds to spread the seed.

I believe that cleaning is necessary for germination in a sterile medium in controlled conditions to avoid fungus that can thrive on the decaying fruit. But I don't think it's necessary to clean the seeds if you're just sticking them to a community pot outside.

OK, I'll have them for dinner and then poop in the pots.   Seed + ferts.  Very sustainable.

[Pando 4,547]

Just now, _Keith said:

OK, I'll have them for dinner and then poop in the pots.   Seed + ferts.  Very sustainable.

 

[DoomsDave 8,063]

2 hours ago, _Keith said:

OK, I'll have them for dinner and then poop in the pots.   Seed + ferts.  Very sustainable.

Some people were actually going to do that with some Lemuriophoenix, till they saw how big the seeds were.

[Phoenikakias 1,663]

2 hours ago, Pando said:

The way I see it, no one is cleaning the seeds in nature (except perhaps some animals passing them through the digestive tract). The fruit gives important nutrients to the seedling once it's in the ground. It also provides an incentive to the animals/birds to spread the seed.

I believe that cleaning is necessary for germination in a sterile medium in controlled conditions to avoid fungus that can thrive on the decaying fruit. But I don't think it's necessary to clean the seeds if you're just sticking them to a community pot outside.

Totally agree!  For many palms from temerate regions (with clear dry seasons) and from dry areas fruit flesh plays the role of water sponge! The not at all or barely edible fruit flesh swells during the raining season providing the endocarp with the needed moisture for the coming warm and dry season. But in this case fresh air rich in oxygen and draft or breeze are also  necessary for fungus prevention or limitation, conditions available only outdoors.

[DoomsDave 8,063]

I've gotten a bit of the fuzzy fungus on some seeds, and it usually doesn't hurt the seedlings, unless it's a super-humid environment, which I'm not able to sustain for long.

[_Keith 744]

On 12/8/2015, 2:16:12, Pando said:

The way I see it, no one is cleaning the seeds in nature (except perhaps some animals passing them through the digestive tract). The fruit gives important nutrients to the seedling once it's in the ground. It also provides an incentive to the animals/birds to spread the seed.

I believe that cleaning is necessary for germination in a sterile medium in controlled conditions to avoid fungus that can thrive on the decaying fruit. But I don't think it's necessary to clean the seeds if you're just sticking them to a community pot outside.

So, this kept weighing on my mind.  Of course you are right that no-one cleans seeds in nature.  But then again, nature does not operate like we do.   Nature is happy for a seed or two of the thousands it drops to germinate.  And it is happy when just a fraction of those that do germinate reach adulthood.   We on the other hand want very high germination rates and want the majority of those to become successful palms.  Thus I am not sure we can achieve our objectives mimicking nature.

[Laaz 1,250]

My microspandix drops seeds all the time. They sprout on their own under the tree without a problem. Every spring I have a fresh batch of seedlings.

These are seedlings from last falls crop.

 

Edited December 13, 2015 by Laaz

[AlekLO 11]

Beautiful!

[DoomsDave 8,063]

Some seed coatings contain growth inhibitors which delay sprouting till conditions are right.

[Mohsen 1,160]

Few of mine are germinating now , thanks Dave

[DoomsDave 8,063]

Let us know how the babies are doing!

[dalmatiansoap 376]

Palmy love ppl,

a quick update on some older Daves radicalis offsprings

some just about to flourish 

 

[Henoh 158]

Nice, they are good looking and healthy palms!

[DoomsDave 8,063]

On 3/12/2016, 10:48:00, dalmatiansoap said:

Palmy love ppl,

a quick update on some older Daves radicalis offsprings

some just about to flourish 

 

Always nice to spread the Palmy Love!

[sashaeffer 379]

Took only a day for my wife to discover I moved my seedlings into living room under a table light. She was not happy.

[foxtail 328]

23 hours ago, sashaeffer said:

Took only a day for my wife to discover I moved my seedlings into living room under a table light. She was not happy.

We love Dave and wives hate him !!!!

[DoomsDave 8,063]

29 minutes ago, foxtail said:

We love Dave and wives hate him !!!!

Let's not read too much into that . . . .

[foxtail 328]

25 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Let's not read too much into that . . . .

Hahahahahaha!!!!! 

[earthworm73 8]

Dave got my seeds yesterday. Now I'm gonna sow them. Did any of yall sowed without soaking the seeds in water?

[DoomsDave 8,063]

6 hours ago, earthworm73 said:

Dave got my seeds yesterday. Now I'm gonna sow them. Did any of yall sowed without soaking the seeds in water?

I soak them; it's easy and yuo can do it overnight. Unless you have to plant them before going to the airport for that dream vacation yuo've waited so long for. (They don't soak in Mother Nature's garden . . . )

[earthworm73 8]

5 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

I soak them; it's easy and yuo can do it overnight. Unless you have to plant them before going to the airport for that dream vacation yuo've waited so long for. (They don't soak in Mother Nature's garden . . . )

Okay thanks. Guess I'll be peeling the dried fruit away then soaking. Sowing will begin tomorrow. Hoping they are in a hurry to sprout. I'll put the inside of my very warm (okay hot) greenhouse.

[_Rob_ 20]

Dave,

Reporting back in: Today i potted up the  sprouts from the bag as they were trying to "escape the baggie": i now have 25 seedlings (meaning pretty much 100% germination rate as expected). I will honour your call to "spread the palmy love" and distribute part of these to Chaemaedorea fans in Netherlands/Belgium - and there are quite a few of them.

Yesterday i heard reports of radicalis and microspadix surviving last winter outdoors in my neck of the woods (Zone 7) with minimal damage  - in some places temps dropped to as far as -7/-8°C this winter, so these babies are really tough to kill!

 

[redbeard917 202]

On 3/14/2016, 9:28:40, sashaeffer said:

Took only a day for my wife to discover I moved my seedlings into living room under a table light. She was not happy.

I bet when they get a little bigger you could make a nice indoor plant with a trio or some grouping of those. Get a nice decorative pot, set them near a windowsill and your wife might appreciate you beautifying the house rather than feel you're turning the living room into a garden shed.

[sashaeffer 379]

9 hours ago, redbeard917 said:

I bet when they get a little bigger you could make a nice indoor plant with a trio or some grouping of those. Get a nice decorative pot, set them near a windowsill and your wife might appreciate you beautifying the house rather than feel you're turning the living room into a garden shed.

Oh, I have over 100 palm in the house......and another order coming from Floribunda she doesn't know about yet. I've given up trying to hide shipping boxes after palms arrive.

[earthworm73 8]

On ‎12‎/‎7‎/‎2015‎ ‎6‎:‎38‎:‎42‎, JubaeaMan138 said:

I did them in soil in a germination box temp around 82 degrees

Do you mind either posting a pic of or explaining your germination box? I think I might wanna build one just looking for some ideas.

[Brad Mondel 703]

Mine won't germinate. They were exposed to 14F last January when I was in PA. Do you think they still have a chance? 

[The Silent Seed 157]

Hey Dave - I kept meaning to - but keep forgetting to - Mine are growing nicely now. 

For those asking about when to plant, etc - it makes no difference I've found - They were planted in mid November (in a warm plant house) - and germinated pretty fast as most Chamaedorea do.