Ben in Norcal 2,238 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 What is that again Andrew? Butia and what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 820 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 Looks like Butia and Butia.… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,238 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 3 minutes ago, Brad Mondel said: Looks like Butia and Butia.… Yeah, it's definitely not a JxS, but maybe another hybrid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 820 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 1 minute ago, Ben in Norcal said: Yeah, it's definitely not a JxS, but maybe another hybrid? Could be, but I'm pretty sure that seed came from a Butia and not a Jubaea. Unless the original plant was a BxJ and it confused the collector. We would have to see mamma tree to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,238 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 4 minutes ago, Brad Mondel said: Could be, but I'm pretty sure that seed came from a Butia and not a Jubaea. Unless the original plant was a BxJ and it confused the collector. We would have to see mamma tree to know. Just reviewing the thread and Andrew says it was collected from a Jubaea? I see no Jubaea in that plant, and it definitely not a JxS. You are right, it looks very much like a Butia to me, but if Andrew is right and it was collected from a Jubaea - I am not sure how to explain it. There is no way it is Jubaea pollinated by Syagrus though - that would look vastly different. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted November 23, 2015 I got this plant from Axel as a gift. He told me he got it off of a Jubaea mother. He also assured me that it was where no Butia were, proximity wise... I am growing it as a J x S but I can understand if people don't think it looks like that. We don't grow Jubaea here so I am happy it is growing(fast too--way faster than a Butia grows). I have documented the growth on this plant so anyone can see the speed it is achieving. In the end, it comes down to trusting Axel, which I do--he has always been a friend to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 820 Report post Posted November 23, 2015 well hopefully we're wrong and it does turn out to be a hybrid! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben in Norcal 2,238 Report post Posted November 24, 2015 Axel is a good guy at heart, and may well be a hybrid. Definitely not a JxS though. That would look very different - so different that it can't just be down to hybrid variability. Good luck with it, whatever it is! Keep us informed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted November 25, 2015 Well, if not, thats a bummer. But I will update, if no other reason than to find out what it is, eventually. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Straight6tt 21 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 Can someone send me patricks info, I seem to have lost it and I want to order one of these jxs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 820 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 His email is coolhybrids@wildblue.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yabazid 140 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 And be patient. He can take forever to respond but he will respond eventually! It took about a month to get my order, but you might get it faster. Good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Straight6tt 21 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 Thanks guys, sent an email last night and he already responded! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Keith 775 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 This thread is responsible for 2 recent palm purchases, and 3 more coming before Christmas. NOW STOP IT. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moose 1,506 Report post Posted December 2, 2015 On 11/28/2015, 6:49:34, _Keith said: This thread is responsible for 2 recent palm purchases, and 3 more coming before Christmas. NOW STOP IT. For years I was not a fan of hybrid palms. Of course living in South Florida my choices of palms that I could grow were in the hundreds. If I lived in north Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, et al, I'll admit I'd have a forest of muleys going on. Especially the Jubea crosses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 754 Report post Posted December 14, 2015 About 4 months? Growth 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 754 Report post Posted December 14, 2015 About 3-4 months? Growth I've been very impressed ....grows as fast or faster than a mule! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,452 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 On December 13, 2015 at 23:24:25, Alicehunter2000 said: About 3-4 months? Growth I've been very impressed ....grows as fast or faster than a mule! Wow! I think this hybrid is going to become very popular from what I've seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasColdHardyPalms 3,234 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 JxS are without a doubt faster than a mule. Both of mine have a growth rate almost on par with a Washingtonia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt N- Dallas 392 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I've been growing the JxS in Dallas, Tx and then moved it to San Marcos, Tx last spring. It is a stunning palm with the leaves being held in a flat plane. The heat has not slowed the growth rate. It has grown through months of +100* highs and occasional lows of 17* unprotected. It's slower than BxS and (JxB)xS, but definitely faster than jubaea. It's more cold hardy than BxS. It had leaves 8' long before I moved it. I've been growing this plant since Oct of 2009. I'll take some new photos & post this weekend. For some reason, the grasshoppers have a penchant for munching on the leaves during the hottest part of summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasColdHardyPalms 3,234 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 10 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said: JxS are without a doubt faster than a mule. Both of mine have a growth rate almost on par with a Washingtonia. Just to quantify that my remark is in regard to all being potted palms inside a greenhouse, not planted outside. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,780 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 JXS are is probably my favorite hybrid Patrick did. I have 2 in the grown and 1 still in a 5 gal that needs to shifted into a 15. After seeing Gary's JXS multiple times I get excited when I see my little guys in the ground trucking away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,780 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 here's a picture of my little guys I'm planting in the ground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,780 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 They were 2 strap seedlings in liners on 2/14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt N- Dallas 392 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 They look great Josh- look the same as mine did at that age. All of Patric's JxS I've seen pics of look the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted December 23, 2015 Yeah mine looks a little different... The old leafbases come off very easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted December 23, 2015 From Jubaea growers, does this look like a jubaea hybrid? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Booth 28 Report post Posted January 2, 2016 It looks a lot like my Butia x Jubaea F1. Definitely a butia mother I would say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasColdHardyPalms 3,234 Report post Posted January 2, 2016 That looks like 100% Butia to me. Too much armament up the petiole for a jubaea hybrid IMO. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 754 Report post Posted January 8, 2016 Does anyone have a picture of the mother Jubaea that Patric uses in his cross? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted January 12, 2016 On 1/2/2016, 12:19:19, TexasColdHardyPalms said: That looks like 100% Butia to me. Too much armament up the petiole for a jubaea hybrid IMO. When you say 'armament', what do you mean? I have run my fingers down the petiole and there are no thorns--just fibers. The fibers could be what you are talking about, but I don't grow Jubaea or Butia so I can't make the call... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevetoad 2,024 Report post Posted January 16, 2016 On December 23, 2015 at 2:43:18 PM, Mandrew968 said: From Jubaea growers, does this look like a jubaea hybrid? Looks like a pure butia to me Andrew but who knows . It could look different with age. I'll bet that those fibers will turn to thorns down the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasColdHardyPalms 3,234 Report post Posted January 16, 2016 On 1/12/2016 9:25:55, Mandrew968 said: When you say 'armament', what do you mean? I have run my fingers down the petiole and there are no thorns--just fibers. The fibers could be what you are talking about, but I don't grow Jubaea or Butia so I can't make the call... Those fibers will grow into larger thorns and they extend way to far up the petiole to be a hybrid. A jxb won't have anything much past the "fat" part of the petiole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Keith 775 Report post Posted January 18, 2016 On 1/16/2016, 2:41:50, TexasColdHardyPalms said: Those fibers will grow into larger thorns and they extend way to far up the petiole to be a hybrid. A jxb won't have anything much past the "fat" part of the petiole. My JxB 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 820 Report post Posted January 18, 2016 Perhaps it's an F2 or F3? This would explain more Butia traits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,785 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like cloudy territory... guess the verdict is still out--Keith, nice palm! Can we see a full shot, please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJ 688 Report post Posted December 7, 2019 Any updates to this thread after the years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OC2Texaspalmlvr 1,194 Report post Posted December 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, RJ said: Any updates to this thread after the years? I'll help bump this thread , definitely some active members still here to show some awesome updated pics !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meangreen94z 1,801 Report post Posted December 7, 2019 Any current sources for smaller sizes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meteorologistpalmguy 197 Report post Posted December 7, 2019 Here is mine in Houston (technically Magnolia, northwest of Houston). Second pic is when I got it from Patric in December of 2014, 1st picture is from today (was dug up and moved in early 2016). 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
