Trachycarpus princeps problem? Plus livinstona chinensis

[Palm crazy]

Here is the problem with my trachycarpus princeps the leaves get damage from rain and cold in winter and in summer more damage from sprinkler and sun hitting the leaves….I am guessing. Anyone else having problems like me? I have two others that are flawless and have overhead protection from rain and they always look good.

Doesn’t look to bad from a distance.

But closer you start to see somethings not right.

The dark brown damage on leaves happen last summer and deep inside the crown you can see the new damage from this winter.

So today I dug it up and transplanted to another part of the garden and hopefully having some overhead canopy will help it in the future.

[Palm crazy]

Ok, back to the old planting area…it looks a little bare now so I decided to plant L. chinensis into the old spot, since I don’t have one of these palms in the backyard.

Before.

After.

Before and after. This palm did have may roots and it kept falling over so I used soil and gravel to give it support by covering up some of the trunk.

[Palm crazy]

I am really happen the way it turned out.

[Palm crazy]

Ughhh! Sorry about the misspellings…damn you auto spelling,… changed some of my words. At least the photos came out on this chilly 45F day, warmer weather coming next week.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Palm crazy

[Josh-O]

cold and wet for long periods are a recipe for fungus problems

[LJG]

The reality is that there is nothing you can do about it if what you think is causing this really is the issue. Well, not without moving it. Personally I didn't think it looked that bad. It seems to have all come on at once? Do you hit it with Daconil? I would do that now.

Not the same climate, but mine is in full sun here in Vista and gets all overhead watering and hasn't had any issues. So I would think that wouldn't be your issue in summer either.

[Alicehunter2000]

Hmm. ...didn't look too bad to me either. Trachyocarpus struggle in my sand here....princeps and waggies are the only thing that seem to have half a chance so far. Never get tired looking at your yard, temperate rainforest.....what high altitude clod hardy palms can you grow?

[SailorBold]

Those palms have a different character.. and from the emerging photos I am seeing they are quite attractive like a relaxed wag.. excellent. I agree with the guys here.. it looked fine to me. Your yard is awesome always looks very green and lush. the pics are excellent.. thanks for sharing!

[905palms]

Your Trachy doesn`t look bad, but probably a little fungus for sure. It`ll snap back, as it`s semi-dormant. Another month, you`ll be fine. L. Chenensis`s are die-back perenials around here, and seem to grow back very fast. Good thing they`re relatively cheap....

[Palm crazy]

Thanks guys for the nice comments I do feel a little better about the whole thing. Taking another look the damage inside is only on the leaves and no spear pull.

Josh I think if it was rain and sun damage other would have it too. So you and LJG are probably right its just some fungus, I don’t have anything to treat it right now but will later. I’m thinking of putting a shelter over the top (leave the sides open for air) and see how that does for the rest of the winter.

905palms, thank goodness for those cheap L. chinensis, that one has been outside for 1.5 years in a pot so it was time to plants. LOL!

David I only grow Butia, Jubaea, Trachy’s, L. chinensis, and Chamaedorea radicalis. All other palms don’t last to long in 8a here. Also plams and some other plants die at a higher temp here because of all the winter rain and cold. Funny thing is this winter has been overall warmer and dryer than a normal winter.

Thanks for looking at the garden and my little dilemma everyone. Can’t wait for spring to get here.

[Palm crazy]

Also Jim thanks for your kind words and looking at the pics. This palm specie is turning out to be my favorite palm that I can grow in the trachy family. Leaves are totally different from other trachy’s with the stiff curving leaves has a nice look to it. If your don’t have one you should diffidently should try one buddy.

[Jimhardy]

Sometimes the flat sections of the leaves cannot close to the sun

like the fan part does and the sun burns the flat part,I guess water

on the leaves with sunlight could also cause this...

Mine does the same thing in the spear area after winter...

as they get some size you end up with cosmetic damage

rather than complete spear pull....even putting a little

lid or awning over it in winter would keep it dry enough and

probably avoid any future spear issues...

[Palm crazy]

Update: the palm has a spear pull. Should fully recover this summer with new growth. I agree Jim, Dry is the key for cold wet places I am sure of it now that it’s in a better spot shouldn’t have any issues.

Edited March 10, 2015 by Palm crazy

[Jimhardy]

Great...that has a really nice form to it like a blinged out Waggie....

I wonder if that cross(WagxPrin) would yield a palm that looks like

yours all growns up...that would be awesome!