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Lemurophoenix halleuxii Seedling Speeding Along In The Ground


Jim in Los Altos

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Now that we're officially out of winter here in Cali, just thought I'd bump in to check in... How's your Lemur doing Jim? I'm also curios to know how long you grew it in your hothouse before you planted it in the ground... ?

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Now that we're officially out of winter here in Cali, just thought I'd bump in to check in... How's your Lemur doing Jim? I'm also curios to know how long you grew it in your hothouse before you planted it in the ground... ?

Ben, It's doing fine. It's about to open another new leaf, slowly though with this cool damp weather we're having. It never spent a day in a hothouse. I planted it the day I received it out of its 4'' container in spring of 2014.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Jim, whats you average retaliative humidity in your garden in the summer and winter months. I've noticed you have pond(S) and I think maybe a stream in your garden.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

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Photos from this afternoon. Second pic shows new frond opening.

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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looks good Jim and a whole summer in front of it !

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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Jim, whats you average retaliative humidity in your garden in the summer and winter months. I've noticed you have pond(S) and I think maybe a stream in your garden.

Josh, Humidity here varies but, for the most part, it's relatively high given my proximity to the SF Bay and the Pacific ocean. Occasionally we'll get an offshore flow and a heat-up and that's when relative humidity can drop to 25% or, in some rare cases lower than that. Typically is ranging from 40 to 60% daytime summer and 50 to 80% summer nights. Winter is damper. This morning at 10 AM it was overcast and 90% humidity. At 5:30 PM it's sunny, breezy, 70F and 62%.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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looks good Jim and a whole summer in front of it !

Troy, We just need some heat!

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That's a really great effort Jim...just goes to show that you'll never know unless you try...

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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That's a really great effort Jim...just goes to show that you'll never know unless you try...

Daryl

I water the heck out of it, Daryl. You know how thirsty these are. Your Lemur is to die for!

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Jim, whats you average retaliative humidity in your garden in the summer and winter months. I've noticed you have pond(S) and I think maybe a stream in your garden.

Josh, Humidity here varies but, for the most part, it's relatively high given my proximity to the SF Bay and the Pacific ocean. Occasionally we'll get an offshore flow and a heat-up and that's when relative humidity can drop to 25% or, in some rare cases lower than that. Typically is ranging from 40 to 60% daytime summer and 50 to 80% summer nights. Winter is damper. This morning at 10 AM it was overcast and 90% humidity. At 5:30 PM it's sunny, breezy, 70F and 62%.

thanks for the info Jim.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

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Jim have you noticed if the leaves are getting "shorter California sized" or bigger?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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Jim have you noticed if the leaves are getting "shorter California sized" or bigger?

Bill, My Lemur was a tiny plant out of a 4" container when I planted it and has added lots of leaves since. It's interesting that, so far, the leaf stems have been of varying lengths, some long, some shorter and that's been variable since it was planted a year ago.

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I just picked up 2 1 gal sized Lemurs to try again. I'm debating planting one close to mine to make a "double" hahaah. Anyway, its a bit sad that the fresh 1 gals are bigger than mine in the ground :bummed:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I just picked up 2 1 gal sized Lemurs to try again. I'm debating planting one close to mine to make a "double" hahaah. Anyway, its a bit sad that the fresh 1 gals are bigger than mine in the ground :bummed:

Bill, Did you get yours from Jeff Marcus? That's who sold me mine.

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yep...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I just picked up 2 1 gal sized Lemurs to try again. I'm debating planting one close to mine to make a "double" hahaah. Anyway, its a bit sad that the fresh 1 gals are bigger than mine in the ground :bummed:

Bill they will be trunking before your house is finished.

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That means palm peeps will be salivating to buy when I sell... :)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Jim what were your average minimums and maximum temps for winter where you are? What you've pulled off is just incredible. Also in winter do you get cold strong winds, or is it mild and still for most of winter?

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Jim your plant success is amazing, do you hormones like seaweed, superthrive and the like?

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Hobart Tasmania

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Mild climate - mostly frost free

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Jim what were your average minimums and maximum temps for winter where you are? What you've pulled off is just incredible. Also in winter do you get cold strong winds, or is it mild and still for most of winter?

Tyrone, I don't know what my averages were. My lowest temperature was 32.5F (0.2C) on two nights. We had almost average rainfall at just over 16 inches that fell almost completely in three storms spaced far apart so most of the winter was dry, mild, and without much wind. I'm in a fairly wind sheltered area anyhow. My Lemur produced two new leaves during the winter which surprised the ****** out of me. We're experiencing a cool, damp, breezy period right now so the current new frond is opening slowly. Rain is expected this Thursday despite the "rainy" season being over.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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Jim your plant success is amazing, do you hormones like seaweed, superthrive and the like?

Sol, I never use hormones, Superthrive, or seaweed on any of my palms or other plants. Heavy mulching over the last several years has yielded fantastic soil throughout my yard. PH is naturally slightly acid and my alkaline irrigation water likely keeps it that way or close to neutral at times. I occasionally spread Dr. Earth Palm Fertilizer around and occasionally ammonium sulfate on the surface of heavy mulch to assist its breaking down. The Lemur get frequent watering of course.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Jim I agree that heavy mulching is the way to go, as they say feed the soil.

Sol Cooper

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Jim what were your average minimums and maximum temps for winter where you are? What you've pulled off is just incredible. Also in winter do you get cold strong winds, or is it mild and still for most of winter?

Tyrone, I don't know what my averages were. My lowest temperature was 32.5F (0.2C) on two nights. We had almost average rainfall at just over 16 inches that fell almost completely in three storms spaced far apart so most of the winter was dry, mild, and without much wind. I'm in a fairly wind sheltered area anyhow. My Lemur produced two new leaves during the winter which surprised the ****** out of me. We're experiencing a cool, damp, breezy period right now so the current new frond is opening slowly. Rain is expected this Thursday despite the "rainy" season being over.

Well whatever you are doing keep doing it. You're lucky to be in a wind sheltered spot. I've got 6 acres of basically open fields in a valley so I get strong cold winds and cold drainage when there is no wind, and it's almost always wet or full of dew here, so I have no hope in a billion years of growing a Lemur palm.

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Move along..... Just a boo-boo here... nothing to see

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Do, please tell

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Any update Jim?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

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1 hour ago, akamu said:

Hi Jim is the lemur still with us:interesting:

Nope, After nearly three years in the ground and quadrupling in size, it suddenly went totally brown during the spring almost from one day to the next. It was as if someone had torched it with a flamethrower yet it was moist at ground level. Mysterious but a fun experiment nonetheless. I replaced it with a Pinanga philippinensis.

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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So sorry to hear this.

I am lucky so far to have one growing steadily in the ground and three seedlings still in pots in PR.

Majestic trees!

 

Cindy Adair

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15 hours ago, akamu said:
13 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:
13 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Nope, After nearly three years in the ground and quadrupling in size, it suddenly went totally brown during the spring almost from one day to the next. It was as if someone had torched it with a flamethrower yet it was moist at ground level. Mysterious but a fun experiment nonetheless. I replaced it with a Pinanga philippinensis.

Nope, After nearly three years in the ground and quadrupling in size, it suddenly went totally brown during the spring almost from one day to the next. It was as if someone had torched it with a flamethrower yet it was moist at ground level. Mysterious but a fun experiment nonetheless. I replaced it with a Pinanga philippinensis.

It was a good run Jim

 

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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6 hours ago, Cindy Adair said:

So sorry to hear this.

I am lucky so far to have one growing steadily in the ground and three seedlings still in pots in PR.

Majestic trees!

 

Cindy, you should start a progressive thread so we can watch your little babies grow up.

Thy will be big in no time in your climate :)

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Sorry to hear about the Lemur Jim I have been contemplating giving this one ago for awhile. Allways fun to try  like you said          Pinanga  philipinnensis is a great substitute  palm indeed Cheers

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