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Xenon

It's still alive! :laugh2::sick:

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Zeeth

Not for long!

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LJG

There goes the coco-nuts shining beacon of hope of growth in SoCal. :)

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Gtlevine

I said it years ago on palmtalk when the thing looked perfect, it was just a matter of time. After 15 years growing palms I realized there are no microclimates for coconuts or border line palms. You may be able to keep them alive for a while, but the long cold winters will eventually weeken the palms defenses and kill it.

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Pando

Interesting! Everyone's been saying that for a bunch of years now, yet it still manages to survive year after year.

Even though it looks pretty raggedy, what I'm afraid most is that its demise may come from some gardener who will just lop it off by mistake.

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Brahea Axel

Len's pee must have finished it off.

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Matt in OC

It looks noticeably sadder than when I saw it back in February. I'm curious if it has been fertilized regularly.

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palmsOrl

Uh oh, it's a goner! :violin: It had a really good run though. I am truly a bit sad to see it is dying.

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stevethegator

What caused it to die now after so many years? Not that it ever really flourished but I'd imagine it saw some cold before and pulled through

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Matt in OC

This winter was incredibly mild, if not downright warm. So maybe it was just a matter of attrition?

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quaman58

Yup; hard to be optimistic about it's future...

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DoomsDave

Hmm.

I just lost a Dictyosperma with about 6 feet of trunk. I wonder if this coco's demise has any parallels?

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Brahea Axel

Dave, the only correlating factor I can think of is drought. The lack of rainfall for three years in a row may have dropped the water tables below ground and depriving this cocos from the large supply of water it needs to grow. Either way, that looks like one hell of a water stressed palm.

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Jimbean

sorry to see that.

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monkeyranch

Curious if someone could recap who planted it and when?

Has the concrete been replaced in the last couple of years as it looks to be a lighter color than the sections further up the sidewalk?

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LJG

Len's pee must have finished it off.

I need to delete that post. I could be tied to a palm death crime :)

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Bill H2DB

Dave, the only correlating factor I can think of is drought. The lack of rainfall for three years in a row may have dropped the water tables below ground and depriving this cocos from the large supply of water it needs to grow. Either way, that looks like one hell of a water stressed palm.

Lack of water was the first thing that I thought of after seeing the pic .

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DoomsDave

I can't speak for the Newport Coconut, but my Dicty never lacked for water, planted as it was right next to the thirsty Rhopie grove.

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Brahea Axel

I can't speak for the Newport Coconut, but my Dicty never lacked for water, planted as it was right next to the thirsty Rhopie grove.

Dave, yours is what inspired me to try one. It grows gangbuster during the Summer, I mean it's fast, but come November it comes to a screeching halt and doesn't resume growth until May. My theory is that the hurricane palm absolutely detests soil temperatures below 60F. Mine just lost all of its fronds by March.

I was smart and followed Len's advice. I yanked my Dictyosperma this Spring, I didn't want to go through the trouble of nurturing something that marginal. Of course, my garden is 2 degrees North of yours and closer to cold water, but I hear it's a tough grow in Socal except for the best microclimates. A good south facing hillside where the soil is sandy and stays warm in the Winter should work well.

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DoomsDave

I can't speak for the Newport Coconut, but my Dicty never lacked for water, planted as it was right next to the thirsty Rhopie grove.

Dave, yours is what inspired me to try one. It grows gangbuster during the Summer, I mean it's fast, but come November it comes to a screeching halt and doesn't resume growth until May. My theory is that the hurricane palm absolutely detests soil temperatures below 60F. Mine just lost all of its fronds by March.

I was smart and followed Len's advice. I yanked my Dictyosperma this Spring, I didn't want to go through the trouble of nurturing something that marginal. Of course, my garden is 2 degrees North of yours and closer to cold water, but I hear it's a tough grow in Socal except for the best microclimates. A good south facing hillside where the soil is sandy and stays warm in the Winter should work well.

My Dicty was in there for an easy 8 years. Like yours, it slowed and spotted come fall, but always started back up in the spring. This year, there was no significant cool period to give it spots.

I was a bit surprised that mine did as well as it did for as long as it did. They are definitely much more suited to beach areas here.

Dictys like heat up to a point, and lots of humidity. In Hawaii, they rock the house until high altitude gets too cold for them. At my place, a large Livistona chinensis was removed from near where the Dicty was last summer. Perhaps the extra exposure was not to its liking.

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LJG

Perhaps it just died...

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DoomsDave

Perhaps it just died...

Yeah.

But it was doing so well for so long.

But, as Mr. Rare sometimes says, maybe it "just went into a funk and died" for some crazy reason. It really was very nice looking for a long while.

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Tyrone

I think it's all over for it. The growing point is now in a different microclimate to the roots.

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Walter John

I'm just glad I got to see it, it does have that spear, although that is beginning to bend down. Palms may die, legends don't, this guy is a legend and a palm so, wait, let me rephrase that. The Newport Coconut is a legend, and legends live on. Things are pretty crook around there though, even the fire hydrant has turned white.

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MKIVRYAN

It managed to hang on this long despite no one looking out for it. Imagine what may have been if a palmy person was caring for it correctly.

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Neil C

Are there any other famous palms that plenty of folk have had their photo taken with?

Regards Neil

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Tyrone

If it was my plant, I'd prune off the dead bits, give the crown a copper fungicide to knock off any opportunistic fungi trying to take hold in the crown, and give it daily doses of fish/seaweed emulsion and then hopefully it would pull out of it as it's summer in the north. But something has to be done quickly too it, or winter will eat it for sure.

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Brahea Axel

Somebody should get a water bag like the one Matty bought and put it around the palm. Do this 2-3 times a week and see if it recovers. That will tell you if it's drought based or not. I am pretty sure this thing isn't getting the water it needs.

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Matt in OC

I'm happy to pitch in. It's right down the street from me.

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humangenomaproject

The bummer is that it did not produce any fruit. I have at least two to three "pipas" every day (they cost $1 here as opposed to the inflated amount for the canned stuff at Whole Foods). They are ambrosia and my youngest craves them daily after school. The locals keep them cold in ice chests, slice open the tops and then insert a straw directly into the juice. We give the remains to my brother in law who heartily devours the insides (apparently if you eat enough they will expel parasitic worms from your bunghole-I'm not joking as my buddy's brother ate roughly ten and then pooped out a ton of worms as the coco forms an impermeable substrate in your gut). Just sayin' :indifferent:.

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JT in Japan

(apparently if you eat enough they will expel parasitic worms from your bunghole-I'm not joking as my buddy's brother ate roughly ten and then pooped out a ton of worms as the coco forms an impermeable substrate in your gut).

Wow, all that from a CocoPalm thread. My lunch hour is complete now.

:-)

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Brahea Axel

I'm happy to pitch in. It's right down the street from me.

That would be great! Let us know if you can save this thing. Water, water and more water! Get the 20 gallon water bag. You might want to spray it black so that it's not so visible.

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DoomsDave

Well, worms out the bunghole are better than going in, I guess

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LJG

I have grown enough palms to know the look of certain death. That thing already has fungus and it is too late.

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Jim in Los Altos

I'm happy to pitch in. It's right down the street from me.

I like your optimism and willingness to give this Cocos at least a fighting chance. I'm with the gang that believes the problem is too little water. If Newport is decently warm this summer there's a chance at survival. If there's a way to get some fungicide into the crown, that would likely be beneficial too.

GOOD LUCK!

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Matt in OC

I'll give it a shot. Hopefully I can make it down there tomorrow and will try and go twice a week with 15 gal. each.

Are there any pictures I can provide of the crown or otherwise that might be helpful to you guys?

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Gonzer

make it down there tomorrow and will try and go twice a week with 15 gal. each.

Like trying to rescue a sea lion that's been bitten by a Great White...let nature take her course.

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Jim in Los Altos

I've seen a lot of near death palms be brought back to their former glory and it's wonderful to see the "rescue" result in a happy palm. Some were very marginal for the area palms too. I've done the same for a few of my client's palms where certified "arborists" had actually been doing much more harm than good.

I say don't let nature take its course since, if that were our motto in drought stricken CA, we'd have thousands of dying palms, not just this Cocos crying out for help.

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_Keith

I'll give it a shot. Hopefully I can make it down there tomorrow and will try and go twice a week with 15 gal. each.

Are there any pictures I can provide of the crown or otherwise that might be helpful to you guys?

Go for it. It may one of the most famous individual palms around. Resurrection would be glorious.

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