Hardier queen provenances

[Alberto]

This young queens planted at the school are there +- 2 to 2,5 year now. They still look ugly and in the future some of them probably will outgrow this but other trunks will slowly rot below the soil surface making some very ugly queens. Some can form roots on the buried trunks and will outgrow it but others....... The leave scars on the trunks begin to appear closer and closer every year , The trunk begin to tapper and with less fronds every year, resultirng ugly palms !

At my fathers farm they also planted some 20 queens some years ago and a week later after,I saw that all the trunks were buried, they were lifted and staked!!! Now they are recovering fine and growing normally.

[Runboy]

Does anyone know of a source on the Syagrus romanzoffiana (var. Santa Catarina)?

Mike

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

Mike, take a look at Penny Palms http://www.pennyspalms.com/syagrus-romanzoffiana-var-santa-catarina-queen-palm.html. Unfortunately they're out of stock, I think this was a limited offering. I am growing one of these, and so far, it seems pretty much on par speed wise with regular queens.

[Nigel]

This young queens planted at the school are there +- 2 to 2,5 year now. They still look ugly and in the future some of them probably will outgrow this but other trunks will slowly rot below the soil surface making some very ugly queens. Some can form roots on the buried trunks and will outgrow it but others....... The leave scars on the trunks begin to appear closer and closer every year , The trunk begin to tapper and with less fronds every year, resultirng ugly palms !

At my fathers farm they also planted some 20 queens some years ago and a week later after,I saw that all the trunks were buried, they were lifted and staked!!! Now they are recovering fine and growing normally.

Worse, almost always in cultivation they are planted in barra vermelho ( red clay) this is the cheap soil everybody uses in brasil for ornamental plantings, they also make roads out of it , brasilians think its the best soil, but actually its the worst substrate you could find on the planet. Palm roots need oxygen and planting in red concrete that turns to liquid mud when it rains is not going to give you a nice looking palm.

[Alberto]

This "barro vermelho" is specially bad if you plant the palms too deep,letting the roots without oxigen....