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Butia archeri


freakypalmguy

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Was out taking a stroll sipping some java and got to looking at my plants believed to be Butia archeri. I have my doubts on whether some are the real thing, but since they've grown a bit, I'll post some pics and maybe the Butia experts could chime in.

First up, two Butia purchased from JD Anderson in one gallon pots apx 6 years ago.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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The second batch are from seeds I received from Europalms apx 7yrs ago, these are the only two that germinated. These had tight cages around them that I just removed, that's why they are a bit upright

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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And the last is a plant I received from a friend about two years ago. This one was tightly caged as well, hence the upright bottom fronds. You can see one of the JD Anderson B. archeri in the background.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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I'm not an expert. These dwarf ones are tricky to identify. I feel pretty good on the bigger stuff. #2 looks like my "Butia archeri". My best guess on mine is a dwarf true Butia capitata. Yours is smaller, and at that age, probably matches closely to the Butia matagrossensis. #1 actually strikes me as Butia archeri with its shape. #3 is compact, but something else. Feel free to ignore everything I just said.

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:-) I know what you mean Buffy, these babies are confusing, but I'm a Butia fan so I'm happy with whatever they are, but it would be nice to get at least one real one out of the five. I remember mention of true archeri having a purple-ish color on the leaf bases, none of mine have this unfortunately.

Thanks for the help,

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

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I 'm not sure about the plants you got from the other sources but I can certainly speak of the ones you got from me. I have a few in the ground at my Fallbrook nursery that have flowered and set seed. These are no doubt Butia archeri. I have also seen plants in habitat and collected seed from these plants. have you seen any flowers on your plants as of yet?

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Jerry D. Andersen

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Thank you and no flowers yet JD, but I'm hoping soon. I agree, the two I am growing that came from your nursery are the plants that I feel are the real deal, the others look so different because I had tight cages around them as protection from rabbits that I just removed, so the fronds were stuck upright, hopefully they will relax as they grow.

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