Utopia visit to see Clayton and Teresa

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Chamaerops humilis var cerifera

[palmtreesforpleasure]

H Wal

I was just looking a little closer than you so i could sneak back the next day and discover/purchase a few more

you should have seen what you missed

regards

colin

[Walter John]

(palmsforpleasure @ Feb. 17 2007,11:24)

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H Wal

I was just looking a little closer than you so i could sneak back the next day and discover/purchase a few more

you should have seen what you missed

regards

colin

I take it all back, okay, spill the beans, what did we miss out on ? variegated dwarf catechu ? It was something variegated wasn't it, come on Colin, fess up.

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Here are a few more photos, most from a recent trip up north the first photo is an oil palm this is quite amazing!

Oil’s ain’t Oil’s

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Lemurophoenix halleuxii, with Philip and Mike it's just about to flower

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This one is Marojejya darianii with Philip to give some scale.

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This is Pinanga veitchii

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This one is Euterpe prectoria variegata

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Here is a Photo of Mike you can not take him any were as he is always legless    This is part of his garden, The Dypsis is the same palm that is being sold as D. ovobontsira.

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Here is a Photo of Mike with ripe seeds of calyptrocalyx polyphyllus.

[Kom Thai Palm]

(Utopia Palms @ Mar. 07 2007,10:07)

QUOTE

Here are a few more photos, most from a recent trip up north the first photo is an oil palm this is quite amazing!

Oil’s ain’t Oil’s

Hello Clayton

I have seen a palm from recently trip in Thailand. That one look like your photo in post#124.

It's look like very much Elaeis guineensis to me. Except straight up leaflet form. Is this the same as yours? I really want to know what is it.

Thanks

[Kom Thai Palm]

And Euterpe prectoria variegata is magnificent.

Thanks for pictures, all very great.

[Alan_Tampa]

Is this Maniltoa?

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Hi komkrit

I'm not sure if it is a form of Elaeis guineensis it looks to small the one in the photo is seeding now so it will be good to see if the seedlings hold the same form, if you are talking to Michael ferrero he might know a name for this form of Elaeis sp

All the best.

Hi Alan

Yes it is a Manitoa it seems to grow quite well in the subtropics it's a great looking tree.

This is another form of D lastelliana but is much smaller than any of the other forms that i have seen the photo is from Mikes E. garden and i think the seeds came from Bill Beattie.

I will try to list some more photos soon as i have to get back to work!

Clayton.

[LJG]

How long has the D. ovobontsira been in the ground?

[Kamipalms]

(Utopia Palms @ Mar. 07 2007,17:39)

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This is Pinanga veitchii

Clayton,

That little Pinanga is a ripper!

I spotted seeds of these on borneo palm seeds last year but by the time I went back to order some ( the following day) they were out of stock....Bugger !

I'm still waiting for them to be relisted again this year - I sleep with one eye open ???

[Carlo Morici]

Great place, great palms, great climate... facing New Caledonia.

The dam is fantastic - well done and the stone walls with colourful rocks too. I unterstand your feelings as I live in a similar world of steep valleys and stone walls.

I see the historical minimum is +3C - which is the typical winter day?

Too many great palms were shown to comment about all. The last posted Dypsis "sold as D.ovobontsira" is irresistible, with long petioles. It is surely the one that prompted me to post this message. I was also surprised by the compact Elaeis shown by Komkrit.

Well done, Clayton.

Carlo

[Bilbo]

Wal and all you guys: those are truly great pics and if only we could grow just one or two of those over here . . .

Im am curious on just one point: how come you all have big bellies?

Is it either :

a) Koala steaks?

Roo burgers?

c) Whole sheep barbies?                    

d) the amber nectar?

(I have my suspicions)

*The Kiwis sure know what to do with a sheep.

Especially if its live and warm!

Regardez all

Juan

[bgl]

Clayton,

Great pictures and incredible palms! Love that Lemurophoenix!! Any idea how old it is?

Bo-Göran

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Hi Len

This is in Mikes garden he can give you the exact time it’s been in the ground and what size it was put in at, I would say no more than 5 or 6 years.

Remember with these slower palms that they grow 10x faster in the ground and are a lot easier to look after then keeping them in pots for to long (that’s if you can put them in the ground I do understand some people do not have the room to put all there collection in the ground)

Hi Jason

That PINANGA is very hard to grow but should grow very well in your kamihouse just do not use any fert on them or on most of these palms from Borneo as this will kill them over night.

Ps; you have done a wonderful job on that kamihouse if all had this sort of enclosure I’m sure there would be many more chamaedorea’s available to day! Great job!

Hi Carlo

Thank you for your great comments, that Oil palm looks like it comes true from seed so it will be one to look out for in the future

And the Dypsis being "sold as D.ovobontsira, there seems to be plenty of them around so see if you can find some, it truly is worth a place in any palm collectors garden.

Hi Bilbo

I think it is a combination of all that you have listed plus some    glad you liked the photos there are a lot more to come it’s just getting the time at the moment to list them.

Hi Bo

I think it’s about 17 or 18 years old it was some of the first seed to come into Australia and now we will have at least this one seeding for next year, here is one more photo of the same palm

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This is another Dypsis sp similar to the D.nodifera group but with regular pinnate leaves.

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This is Amorphophallus prainii

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This one is Geonoma tomandula the leaves can get very dark a fantastic palm!!

[Walter John]

(Bilbo @ Mar. 10 2007,00:36)

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Wal and all you guys: those are truly great pics and if only we could grow just one or two of those over here . . .

Im am curious on just one point: how come you all have big bellies?

Is it either :

a) Koala steaks?

Roo burgers?

c) Whole sheep barbies?                    

d) the amber nectar?

(I have my suspicions)

*The Kiwis sure know what to do with a sheep.

Especially if its live and warm!

Regardez all

Juan

Mine was because I had one of those belt thingies for , you know one of those pouche doovies for carrying some ..ah.. it was ..um...

okay, it was d).

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This one is Calyptrocalyx sp kainlas this is the best form.

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This one is Iguanura speciosa from Thailand

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One more Licuala sp var mapu.

[Carlo Morici]

Ouch - I am getting sick! My psychiatrist thinks I need a few kainlas pills and some Iguanura-speciosa syrup to get relief. But I can't find these drugs now, I think I will keep on getting some mapu shots, but probably the final solution is a bath in the dam and a Dypsis being "sold as D.ovobontsira" planted on the top of my head.

Now,what is the Dypsis being "sold as D.ovobontsira"? If you call it so, it is not D.ovobontsira, I understand. Do we know what it is?

In other (tongue-twisting) words: Is any Dypsis sold as D.ovobontsira a Dypsis being "sold as D.ovobontsira" or can they be true D.ovobontsira?

Carlo

[Shon]

Love all your pics Clayton. Tell Mike to add more from his place. Looks like he has heaps of nice rare palms in the ground. I added the word heaps for the Aussie palm contingent. Now I will go crack open VB.

[bgl]

Clayton,

Wow, spectacular Lemurophoenix! And those C. sp. kainlas are pretty amazing too!

Bo-Göran

[Jeff Searle]

Clayton,

    Is Geonoma tomandula native to Ecuador? I saw a Geonoma species while on a collecting trip there many years ago with almost black leaves. Very narrow leaves also.

Jeff

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Hi Carlo

Glad you are enjoying the photos, and yes the Dypsis ovobontsira are not the true sp all of the plants sold under this name that I have seen all grow into the palm in the photo with Mike in post 129.

And from what John Dransfield has said I think we would very lucky to see the true species in cultivation, but you never know. ???

Hi Shon

I will let Mike know he will like the VB!

Hi Bo

You seem to love your large palms, I’m trying to get you to like some of these smaller ones as well as every one can grow some of these especially some of these small Dypsis some only grow to around 1m tall, so these small ones could fit in some of the smallest gardens if protected. These are very similar to the Chamaedorea’s but these have so much colour and appeal, they just need some exposure to help promote these little treasures.

Here is one more of those very special little Dypsis, this is Dypsis brevicaulis.

Hi Jeff

Yes this is the one Geonoma tomandula, it gets darker as it get’s older, not quite black though,

I think the Calyptrocalyx sp kainlas looks darker than this Geonoma. ???

This is Dypsis brevicaulis.

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Iguanura Bicornis with seed.

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Licuala Radula seed.

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And one more of this great littleDypsis

"Dypsis Brevicaulis"

[bgl]

Clayton,

Yes, guilty as charged - I definitely have an affinity for larger palms, but I'm beginning to appreciate a lot of the smaller ones as well!  Calyptrocalyx is certainly one of my favorite genera, and Iguanura, Licuala and small Pinangas are all great palms, and I'd like to have many more of them. I have to admit, though, that a number of the tiny Dypsis with real thin stems all seem to look alike and I just can't get so excited about them! But if you show me pics of some small Dypsis that look a little bit different, I promise to have an open mind...!

Bo-Göran

[calyptrocalyx&licuala freck]

We would like to remind everyone Photo's belonging

to Utopia Palms and Cycads Are copyrighted to

Clayton and Teresa, 38 Ninderry Slopes Rd, Valdora.QLD 4561.

And cannot be reproduced without Permission,

All you need to do is contact Clayton,Via E-mail,

you will find no problem is you ask.

regards  {on Behalf of Clayton}

             Mike Edwards.

[BS Man about Palms]

I had to bump this as I found it looking for something else!

The amazement does not diminish, but the appreciation grows as I have tried to aquire and grow some of the aforementioned!

Also, it looks like #20 might be now known as Dypsis tokoravina?

Awesome!

Thanks again Clayton and Theresa!! (et al.)

[Walter John]

I had to bump this as I found it looking for something else!

The amazement does not diminish, but the appreciation grows as I have tried to aquire and grow some of the aforementioned!

Also, it looks like #20 might be now known as Dypsis tokoravina?

Awesome!

Thanks again Clayton and Theresa!! (et al.)

My oh my, we look so young, that's nearly 4 years ago.

I agree Bill on the ID, looks like a Toko agogo.

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Wow, love these old threads from the depths of Palmtalk... That lemur is awesome!