nick1427d 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 Hey everyone first time posting. Been attempting to grow palms for about 2 years now. Have "killed" 2 larger Trachy due to rot and 1 needle over winter, none protected. I have about 20 Trachy seedlings with about 2 to 3 straps sitting in plastic pots at the moment. I'd like to have them permanently in the ground around my inground pool. I have some ideas on protection during winter and since I got these dirt cheap not terribly worried if a few don't make it. Question is should I wait to plant these now, this fall, or next spring? It's getting very hot and humid here. Should they be planted in afternoon shade? Maybe wait till they get a bit bigger? Currently they are getting about 6 hours of full sun then afternoon shade. I thought about maybe putting a few in a shaded area near some rose of sharon I have that way as they get bigger they will get more sun and will tolerate it more. Kind of missed the ball I think this year cause we've had so much rain everything's growing like crazy, except for my Robustas. Thanks for all your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cindy Adair 3,377 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 We have them everywhere in our yard from full shade to full sun, but I think they'd prefer lots of sun. They seem fine with heat and humidity. I assume that the bigger they are, the better before they must battle the cold. So if you have a place to keep them out of the most severe weather another winter and then plant them in the spring perhaps that would be best. They laugh at the snow in our zone 8 yard with no protection at any age, but we don't get the cold that you do. I hope others will chime in to better answer your questions. Welcome and congratulations on your palm collection! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick1427d 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Thanks! The worse thing about our cold is one year it won't get below 20 then the next it's in the single digits. I think I may put a few in the ground where theres some shade and overwinter the others indoors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kahili 30 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Appaandssa is totally right-they will grow twice as fast in full sun, and if they are just seedlings and you are going to plant some in the ground now, then they will need all the growth this summer that you can give them. I would also add a bit of slow release fert to the ground as well. If you can protect them this winter with blankets wrapped around them when it gets really cold that will help too. Good luck with them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted December 27, 2014 I also live in a A 6b climate zone. Out temperature dips from year to year sound extremely similar to yours. Are you in the Southeastern US? Was wondering because if so, could easily give some pointers on how to get the needles and windmills to survive. I currently am growing Saw Palmetto, Sabal Minor, Sabal tamulipas, Sabal Palmetto, and Needle Palm. All are doing pretty well so far. Some are new and some survived the winter of 2913-14. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
905palms 6 Report post Posted December 27, 2014 Welcome Nick! I'm in Canada Z6B with many seedlings of sabal minor and Pindo, all protected with mulch and leaves only, no heat. You'll be fine. Just keep them dry, and the cold will bounce off of them. My seedling managed last winters 'coldmegeddon', on a South facing wall. So if you plan on planting them close to the pool, make sure you do so in the south side if it's above ground. Both apandssa and kahili are correct, do plant them in the Spring with some Quick start fertilizer monthly. Once they mature, then go with the slow release fert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmhort 21 Report post Posted December 27, 2014 Wow, you guys make my location seem warm. Zone 7a in coastal, central NJ. I lost two large (6ft+) Trachys last year but my Sabal minors came thru no problem with no protection at all despite the 4F on two occasions. I have TONS of seeds from the mother and LOTS of seedlings...its almost a weed! If anyone wants seeds/seedlings please let me know. I planted a Mazari palm this past summer but think it's already gone Good luck guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Welcome Nick! I'm in Canada Z6B with many seedlings of sabal minor and Pindo, all protected with mulch and leaves only, no heat. You'll be fine. Just keep them dry, and the cold will bounce off of them. My seedling managed last winters 'coldmegeddon', on a South facing wall. So if you plan on planting them close to the pool, make sure you do so in the south side if it's above ground. Both apandssa and kahili are correct, do plant them in the Spring with some Quick start fertilizer monthly. Once they mature, then go with the slow release fert. That is awesome that your seedlings survived. Amazing what microclimates do for palms! Was talking with an individual in Ohio that was having trouble with needles. I am going to quote you and post on the forum I saw it on. Here is the topic I posted your quote under: Middle TN/South Central KY Palm enthusiasts. It is actually the topic I started. Edited December 27, 2014 by CumberlandPlants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted December 27, 2014 Wow, you guys make my location seem warm. Zone 7a in coastal, central NJ. I lost two large (6ft+) Trachys last year but my Sabal minors came thru no problem with no protection at all despite the 4F on two occasions. I have TONS of seeds from the mother and LOTS of seedlings...its almost a weed! If anyone wants seeds/seedlings please let me know. I planted a Mazari palm this past summer but think it's already gone Good luck guys! I would definitely be interested in some of you Trachy. seedlings at some point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh-O 2,780 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 Hey everyone first time posting. Been attempting to grow palms for about 2 years now. Have "killed" 2 larger Trachy due to rot and 1 needle over winter, none protected. I have about 20 Trachy seedlings with about 2 to 3 straps sitting in plastic pots at the moment. I'd like to have them permanently in the ground around my inground pool. I have some ideas on protection during winter and since I got these dirt cheap not terribly worried if a few don't make it. Question is should I wait to plant these now, this fall, or next spring? It's getting very hot and humid here. Should they be planted in afternoon shade? Maybe wait till they get a bit bigger? Currently they are getting about 6 hours of full sun then afternoon shade. I thought about maybe putting a few in a shaded area near some rose of sharon I have that way as they get bigger they will get more sun and will tolerate it more. Kind of missed the ball I think this year cause we've had so much rain everything's growing like crazy, except for my Robustas. Thanks for all your help! welcome to palm talk Nick!! You have come to the right place for all you palm questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmhort 21 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 Nick, sorry for the confusion but I only have Sabal minor seeds/seedlings...not Trachy. If your still interested, let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 Minor seedling are not a problem. Sent you a pm about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 Sorry about the confusion. Interestingly enough, my name is Nick too. It's funny how you hear your name and just assume people are talking to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
