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Sabal texana can survive zone 8 easy


GREENHAND

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This sabal tex is in my front yard survived below 10 deg and very strong north winds with no problems. i would highly recomend this palm in zone 8 gardens.post-59-0-71083900-1367336860_thumb.jpgpost-59-0-41845900-1367336883_thumb.jpg

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Looking good. I have queen palms here in my zone 8b garden for three years-no protection and no damage. Don't always listen to what you hear!

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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Greenhand: I forget, is S. texana synonymous with S. mexicana or S. x texensis. I think its S. mexicana. Regardless, here's a fun post I made a few years ago about the S. mexicana clump in my yard:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/17942-sabal-mexicana-on-the-aransas-river/

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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If anyone gets a chance, get on Google maps and go to the intersection of State Highway 77 and the Aransas River down in south Texas. If you look carefully north and south of the intersection, you'll see some Sabal mexicana rising from the upper portion of the banks.

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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Greenhand: I forget, is S. texana synonymous with S. mexicana or S. x texensis. I think its S. mexicana. Regardless, here's a fun post I made a few years ago about the S. mexicana clump in my yard:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/17942-sabal-mexicana-on-the-aransas-river/

Hey buffy. I think they are one in the same. i also have one at my lake cabin that does well. one of my favorite sabals for sure.i would think they are as cold hardy as a w filifera. also great post on the ones on the aransas river.

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Her is another one growing in my back yard with a good fat trunk.post-59-0-44520700-1367612165_thumb.jpg

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Greenhand: I forget, is S. texana synonymous with S. mexicana or S. x texensis. I think its S. mexicana. Regardless, here's a fun post I made a few years ago about the S. mexicana clump in my yard:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/17942-sabal-mexicana-on-the-aransas-river/

Hey buffy. I think they are one in the same. i also have one at my lake cabin that does well. one of my favorite sabals for sure.i would think they are as cold hardy as a w filifera. also great post on the ones on the aransas river.

S. texana is the synonym for S. mexicana. S x texensis is now officially called S. x brazoriensis

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Greenhand- yours are beautiful palms! Thanks for posting :)

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

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I live in northern CA but have visited TX from time to time. There are lots of Washintonias in Dallas/Ft. Worth. Most are crosses. I've seen the native Sabals in San Antonio and Austin. I have a couple of young ones here including S. texana and S. brazorensis. I'm trying Copernicia alba but want seed from the hardiest groves in Argentina. Does anyone have seeds or seedlings from such a grove?

Here palms are naturalizing too. Washingtonias of all three types but filifera only inland. Brahea edulis pops up all over Berkeley and Oakland from neighboring trees. It is from a 7 million year old volcanic island (same as Kauai) that has never been attached to the mainland. It grows with one pine, one cypress, one juniper and one oak specie. All others survive on the mainland or other islands. The palm was extripated from the mainland at some point as was Q. tomentella which is a very ornamental oak. B. armata has suddenly been discovered by landscapers and is appearing esp. around Palm Springs. It is native only 5 miles (8km) souch of the border at Mexicali at Guadalupe Canyon. It is a hot springs camp ground where I camped some years back. It grows wild with W. filifera. P. dactylifera is naturalized around the area too. I've driven south to Mugulé and saw many groves of Washingtonia robusta, filibusta and B. armata. The oasis at San Ignacio has an enormous date palm grove. The missions and history are great too. I tried to get to see B. brandegeii when visiting Cabo San Lucas but needed at least a day and horses and the other guys were not into either. There is a relict oak/pine/palm forest above about 3000'/1000m and that would be something to see.

As far as freak frosts. I lived in Miami back in the 80s. I heard tell from Cubans that there was a hard frost and snowfall in western Cuba in the 1890s. Crops of all types failed. I've read that the Roystonea elata of Florida at that time grew north to Deland FL almost to Jacksonville but froze back to the Everglades zone 10/11. We had almost such a frost here in NorCal back in 1990 and the citrus crop failed. I lost a few experimental plants as we'd just bought this house.

I suspect that your lost palms not just due to deprecation for pier posts but from freezing. For posts they would have removed adults but seedlings and immature individuals too short for the task would have been left and sooner or later they would have seeded around. At least a few inaccessable individuals should have made it.

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Her is another one growing in my back yard with a good fat trunk.attachicon.gifry%3D400.jpg

I hope mine will look like that someday. It's much cooler here so it will take a long time. But it's fun nevertheless. Mine is s. mexicana, which I think is the same thing.

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They also seem to handle the extreme heat well it often gets to over 100 deg plus in the summer here in the Dallas area. Then i will hand water them just to make sure.

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Greenhand, really nice palms and yard. What type is the one in #6? Very curved leaves, almost butia like in the curvature, but not a butia trunk for sure.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

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Greenhand, really nice palms and yard. What type is the one in #6? Very curved leaves, almost butia like in the curvature, but not a butia trunk for sure.

Sabal :wub:

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On 5/3/2013 at 10:16 PM, GREENHAND said:

Her is another one growing in my back yard with a good fat trunk.post-59-0-44520700-1367612165_thumb.jpg

Beautifull seeds as well 

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It seems like the Sabals in Texas handled the recent cold winters pretty well, definitely one to plant a lot of down there! 

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On 5/3/2013 at 8:50 AM, buffy said:

If anyone gets a chance, get on Google maps and go to the intersection of State Highway 77 and the Aransas River down in south Texas. If you look carefully north and south of the intersection, you'll see some Sabal mexicana rising from the upper portion of the banks.

We were down at the Sabal Palm Sanctuary today on the border with Mexico.507BFFAD-1B94-494E-BFB3-A265E8A46E45.thumb.jpeg.31cb735c4356021610a32c0c82003c5f.jpegMy son in front of a cluster.4E9F927F-6D3C-4402-A180-DCA72F291918.thumb.jpeg.874e7f9489def48cf717505752f2c4e8.jpegD56F7D83-3562-4902-8675-A379F2D1C539.thumb.jpeg.59ffdad58f07d0650200a5f905b46ef2.jpegECDDE550-3F3D-4C79-9002-558A383FFE60.thumb.jpeg.9986a7beedccd4702126706082db3ef3.jpeg44D956F4-426C-4192-BE73-32B6E99CDEB8.thumb.jpeg.17ecc9bd4c6f924372305cc8267a6fc8.jpegLeaf bases self cleaning on 40-50 foot palms.2B48F654-1AF7-4314-BB82-4D33FFC18789.thumb.jpeg.1b5b7780e125cf350c3b3c80a26f8503.jpeg8B8C4295-94CA-4CA4-9DE3-0E804DE69E05.thumb.jpeg.a47ac76ef74a21d17a36a774f5d997cb.jpeg

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Here is more from the Spring:

 

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