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Syagrus oleracea, a pretty palm.


Alberto

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I found this Syagrus oleracea growing in a garden in the county of Tibagi. I like the look of this palm with its slender trunk. Tibagi is located 80 km from my city , more northern location, and at lower altitude (750-850m) so ir´s warmer.

I saw also a mature king palm (A.cunninghamiana) growing in the same garden, so its not very cold there, but Syagrus oleracea must be a somewhat hardy palm. How much cold it can have? Do you know?

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I am growing it here, hardiness is supposed to be 28F but that's a conservative guess. I would lump it in with regular king palms in terms of hardiness, so 26F. I have one and the leaves feel tougher and more drought tolerant than Regular queen so I bet it's a tough plant.

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F 26 is only -3.33ºC. Queen palms are certaibly a LOT hardier then this, Specially the southern tableland provenace is certainly hardier then the queens originated above the tropic line.

Thanks for answering! :)

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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F 26 is only -3.33ºC. Queen palms are certaibly a LOT hardier then this, Specially the southern tableland provenace is certainly hardier then the queens originated above the tropic line.

Thanks for answering! :)

I think you mean king not queen. 26F is a conservative rating for reliable landscaping purposes. They will survive colder but look like crap, exactly like king palms, unless you have them under canopy, in which case they won't get damaged until 24-25F maybe.

However you rate kings, just think of syagrus oleracea as slightly more cold sensitive because you have to grow it in full sun.

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F 26 is only -3.33ºC. Queen palms are certaibly a LOT hardier then this, Specially the southern tableland provenace is certainly hardier then the queens originated above the tropic line.

Thanks for answering! :)

I think you mean king not queen. 26F is a conservative rating for reliable landscaping purposes. They will survive colder but look like crap, exactly like king palms, unless you have them under canopy, in which case they won't get damaged until 24-25F maybe.

However you rate kings, just think of syagrus oleracea as slightly more cold sensitive because you have to grow it in full sun.

Yup, I bought a couple from Floribunda, they survived 27f but looked like crap so into the compost pile they went.

Jeff

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

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OK!! You wrote "king" but read "queen". I misunderstood you....Sorry!

So you say the hardiness of S.oleracea is similar to a king palm (A. cunninghamiana) in your experience.

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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OK!! You wrote "king" but read "queen". I misunderstood you....Sorry!

So you say the hardiness of S.oleracea is similar to a king palm (A. cunninghamiana) in your experience.

Slightly less hardy than a king, and you have to grow it fully exposed, so it will look like crap as Jeff noted if it gets down to 27F.

I recommend you get picrophylla instead, the lent coconut, it can take 25F or more, hardier than a king.

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  • 3 months later...

I recently purchased a G size of this as well.

I noticed the strap leaf starting to brown in full day sun.

Its in shade after 12pm and growing well.

I have the lent coconut/S.picrophylla as well.

The strap leaf is much tougher on these and have it growing in full day SoCAL sun.

Dark green leaf and not a trace of brown and just lovin the heat.

Cheers.

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  • 6 months later...

I have a bunch of straplings here in Whittier. I will have to see how they manage. So far so good. Wish me luck.....I do not want them to end up in the compost heap.

Ed Mijares

Whittier, Ca

Psyco Palm Collector Wheeler Dealer

Zone 10a?

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