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Cold hardiness of a temperate palm x tropical palm.


Alberto

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I made some hybrids with Butia eriospatha x Syagrus oleracea , B.eriospatha x S. glaucescens, Butia eriospatha x S.ruschianna and also the hardy tableland Syagrus romanzoffiana x S. glaucescens.

I´d like to know the interaction between the cold hardiness factor transfered by Cytoplasmatic inheritance ("mother palm") + genetic inheritance versus lack of cold hardiness of the tropical provenance palm (pollen donnor or "father")

Can somebody have examples of such kind a hybrid and its hardiness?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto if your theory is correct, then it should be also probable a cold sensitivity when pollen donor is the temperate and mother the tropical plant? But the hybrid

Phoenix roebellenii X P. dactylifera is cold hardier than mother sp.

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Thanks! Very helpfull info ! :)In fact I´m trying to understand what will be the influence of genetic (both parents) and cytoplasmatic inheritance (mother plant) in the cold hardiness of such hybrids

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto if your theory is correct, then it should be also probable a cold sensitivity when pollen donor is the temperate and mother the tropical plant? But the hybrid

Phoenix roebellenii X P. dactylifera is cold hardier than mother sp.

Are you sure that the mother plant was P. roebelleni?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto if your theory is correct, then it should be also probable a cold sensitivity when pollen donor is the temperate and mother the tropical plant? But the hybrid

Phoenix roebellenii X P. dactylifera is cold hardier than mother sp.

Are you sure that the mother plant was P. roebelleni?

I hand-pollinated myself mother plant and I collected also myself the seeds.

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OK, Thanks!!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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How is cold hardiness of B.odorata x Syagrus coronata?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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How is the frost hardiness of young Butia X Syagrus coronata compared to pure Butias?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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For those of you who have hybridized, is the result always as cold hardy as the hardier parent? Are the results variable?

That's really interesting about the mother plant dominating genetically. I've always thought genetics averaged out to a 50/50 contribution of characteristics.

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Cold hardiness is a lotery. The cross can be hardier than both parents, i am thinking about foxy lady palm...

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elevation 328 feet

distance from mediteranean sea 1,1 mile

lowest t° 2009/2010 : 27F

lowest t° 2008/2009 : 33F

lowest t° 2007/2008 : 32F

lowest t° 2006/2007 : 35F

lowest t° 2005/2006 : 27F

lowest t° 2004/2005 : 25F

Historical lowest t° 1985 : 18F

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On 1/25/2020 at 1:08 PM, gilles06 said:

Cold hardiness is a lotery. The cross can be hardier than both parents, i am thinking about foxy lady palm...

I also would like to try one of these as they are suppose to be hardier and faster growing then there parents =) 

T J 

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