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Some cold hardy palms


Jimhardy

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Question... do you get leaf burn where the fronds are touching the plastic within those cylinder type set ups.... if you have a little heat inside?

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Hey Jim - the Moose would love to see your garden all winterized. Got any new pictures? :)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Tropicdoc-

Yea...if they

stay against the enclosure to long they will burn or worse turn black with fungal growth-

I pop the tops when the temps allow and this keeps that from happening...always they are

better off stuffed in the covers if need be...because there is no alternative. :greenthumb:

Moose

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That's just wild....here I am bumming about it being in the mid 30's tomorrow. Everything looks so healthy in the summer...must have killer soil.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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What kind of heaters are you using?

You might want to consider using the reflective bubble wrap instead of clear bubble wrap, as it will reflect the heat back inside and save you lots of energy. However, the clear stuff does have the advantage to let light in during the day.

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Thanks you guys...I was thinking about that foil bubble wrap...

may be able to throw a sleeve in there for the Washy group next year

as I need to come up with more cover with the same amount of heat.

The clear covers do let it warm up,it is 0F out now and in the 40s in the enclosures.

Thanks Steve-it can be a pain in fall/early winter when the weather does not help

me to be interested in plants anymore...slog through that and you have a pretty good

set up(for Iowa-lol) March through Nov!

Here -hopefully- is another thread I just posted on last nights event.

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Latest from Ice Station Zebra

Not trying to pull the stripes over your eyes but we are locked in to winter...got rid of the last snow the day before this one.

This Arctic carpet rolled out in front of the polar express's delivery from the north pole....looks like it was
-16F at the airport north of here and -10F in my yard in town-what a great micro-climate I have here!-lol

Before it snowed I reinforced the Washy,Nainital,Princeps,Fortunei,Martianus(already pretty
fried-spear is growing though)FortxWag and the bigger Waggie.

The Princeps stayed 57-60F all night,this should be warm enough to keep the leaf tips touching the enclosure from burning..

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Temp was staying above freezing(37F)last night in the cactus enclosure with 4-5" of snow,1" bubble wrap and PVC clear plastic(this cuts down on the drips) insulating it...I turned on the heat anyway,you never know how cold those outer edges get,although they are covered in snow.


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I use C-7 & C-9 x-mas lights and a 1500wt space heater in the cactus enclosure...

with the snow and the bubble wrap the cactus enclosure stayed in the upper 40s while it was -10F.

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Nice collection. But no Chamaerops. A vast grower, certainly in your hot summer climate so they should grow very well there. And they can take some frost as well, till about -10 C. And compaired to lets say Sabal minor Chamaerops is a much better looking palm. And grows allready with lower temperatures! So more fronds in a year then Sabal or needlepalms.

Alexander

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You probably cant see it but there is a C.Cerifera in between the Y.gloriosa and the var Aloifolia.

I am very impressed with Cerifera,one of the hardiest palms I have!

I could not seem to find a good picture but if you look close you can see the Cerifera in the lower

right corner to the right of that cut out square in the backing of the Cactus cover.

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Moose....

I was in Mesa Arizona from Jan 5th to April 15th....good winter to leave,

I think the temps averaged below freezing for 3 months,something like

12F/30F Dec/ 6F/24F Jan/ 6F/25F Feb many,many nights below zero

and even some days below zero with temps as low as -19F.

The Sequoia is dead and so are the Butterfly bushes,even the native

Rose Mallow barely survived and is well behind schedule.

Even March saw -9F with snow and cold,I am sure the late cold

along with the more intense sun in March really finished off anything

that could have survived the winter-luckily 4 the palms,etc the power stayed on.

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That sucks about the Sequoia, would be great to see some pics when things start popping again.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Beautiful yard! Do you like how you don't have to decorate come October 31st? Haha! Looks cool at night with those soft lantern auras.

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A pitty of the dead Sequoiadendron. Here in The Netherlands and also farther east in Germany they are full winterhardy. And winters can be very cold here sometimes, certainly in Central Europe.

Alexander

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Wow that's amazing! I love seeing the growth that has been achieved. Great looking garden!

zone 7 and palming...... how 'bout that?

:mrlooney:

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Bravo! Bravo!

Always love to see your photos!

"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

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Yeah, I have to go out tonight or tomorrow and "harvest" all the banana corms, get the last of the veg out of the garden.

At least I don't have to mow the yard anymore!

"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

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Yes, will be busy here as well, but will leave the most cold hardy stuff in pots out a while longer(Sabals, CIDP, Pindo's Pygmy's etc)

House and garage is going to fill up fast.

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Got all my stuff in....unfortunately everything outside needs covered or else as winter arrives Tues!

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Winter did arrive there with no mercy this year it seems. Minus 14 C as a minimum in November! Thats very extreme! And very sad of that luge subtropical foliage!

Here we still had no frost! Fingers crossed.

Alexander

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It's like watching a time-laps of your children growing up. Thanks for letting us watch your family grow

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Is that a Yucca rostrata? It is doing great!

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ
Hi 83F, Lo 46F

Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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On 12/24/2013, 11:21:35, Jimhardy said:

I use C-7 & C-9 x-mas lights and a 1500wt space heater in the cactus enclosure...

with the snow and the bubble wrap the cactus enclosure stayed in the upper 40s while it was -10F.

 

 

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Is that a Yucca rostrata? It is doing great!

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 108°, Lo 78°

Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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This inspires me. If you can do this way up there, then I shouldn't be that afraid to try a more tropical palm like a queen or something that's only about 1 zone less cold hardy than me. So much possibility when you're willing to care for them like that.

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Here is a more recent pic(s).

 

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I let some of the bigger palms go,they were shading the

cactus bed and even worse...they were plain old Fortunei:huh:

 

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Thanks Barrie

 

 

It is pretty easy until fall when my attention is

not on the plants anymore and it can

be daunting to cover everything.

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Stunning. Well done. I don't see many gardens as nice here in Nor Cal. Even your agaves have some really nice size on them.

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