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Growing Dypsis sp. dark mealy bug - So Cal requirements

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I've had one of these now for a year and its working on its 2nd leaf. It's been outside on the west side of my house under a tree. After looking over a few past threads I have an idea of where I want to plant it but I wanted your suggestions and your opionions on the spot I have picked out.

I would love to know all the requirements they need so i can attempt to grow it here in So Cal. The spot I have picked out is full south facing sun till about 4pm on a small steep slope with great drainage. The hedge will protect it from wind till it gets above it and the rocks I put around it hopefully will hold the heat. There is a deciduous tree that would hang over the planting spot but not shade it out.

Thanks for your input and picture of yours would be great!

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This pic faces south and the temp sensor on the ground is where I would plant it.

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A couple more angles. The spot is where the landscape light is in the ground, to the right of the tallest Bizzy leaf.

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Same light in the ground, in the middle of the brown drip tube.

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The Bismarkia will block it's beauty. It needs to be off by itself.

I thought about that but it would only block it from the street view and shade it out a little. I would always have a view of it. Think of the bizzy being the back part of the "room" I'm trying to create in my front yard

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How far from the Bizzie is the possible planting area? You know how big Bizzies get right? Mine has about a 25-30 foot spread.

As far as your Dypsis sp. Darkmealy, I have had one in the ground for three winters now. It was planted from a big 3 gallon so about twice the size of yours. The last leaf that opened is about 3 feet long so it is getting established. However it is always under shade cloth. Anytime a leaflet pops out the shade cloth it burns. I would assume this plant will need protection from full sun for many years before it is ready to handle our hot, dry sun. Ideally I bet this plant would do great with morning sun or late afternoon sun until it grows to some size.

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Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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How far from the Bizzie is the possible planting area? You know how big Bizzies get right? Mine has about a 25-30 foot spread.

As far as your Dypsis sp. Darkmealy, I have had one in the ground for three winters now. It was planted from a big 3 gallon so about twice the size of yours. The last leaf that opened is about 3 feet long so it is getting established. However it is always under shade cloth. Anytime a leaflet pops out the shade cloth it burns. I would assume this plant will need protection from full sun for many years before it is ready to handle our hot, dry sun. Ideally I bet this plant would do great with morning sun or late afternoon sun until it grows to some size.

Thanks Len, That helps out a lot. The Bizzy is 10 feet away. I'm sure that once it gets to a 25-30 foot spread it will be taller than the Mealy. I really don't think i'm gonna be able to wait over 5 years to see it without the shade cloth on though. Are they eventually going to want full sun? I would guess it would grow faster if it was full South under cloth?

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This is just me and I am sure others will argue differently but I can't think of a single healed Dypsis from northeastern, tropical Madagascar that can handle full sun as a small plant. Bill Sanford has found this out the hard way on many of his. If you dont want shade cloth, maybe plant a temporary plant to shade it? Banana or something else?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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Yep. Len's right... He cautioned me about full sun, but I thought on the coast I would be OK. WRONG. I tried to get where it sees 3/4 day sun because I know they like heat, But a near perfect plant in a 3 gal with 30" leaves had half the leaves burned off with in 2 months. Since then its been in the shade cloth. Len has the heat, I have the Humidity... In reality its handling about 2 hours of coastal sun a day.. but I have so little heat it barely moves... averaging 1 leaf a year.. Last one about 18" long.

This palms wants HOT SHADE... good luck in So Cal... but thats why these grow like champs in a greenhouse. I think this would be a great palm for South Florida, but a harder grow here.

AS Len alluded, Its a tough learning curve.. but we are all learning.. :)

As with most all Dypsis, they are pretty cool hardy, its just which Dypsis has leaves that can take the drier So cal air and not burn...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Bill, Len, Thanks.

I might wait till the tree gets some leaves and see exactly where the shade is at, and plant it at the edge of that. That's the only hot shade I have. or I can just suck it up and keep it under the shade cloth till the Bizzy shades it out :).

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I have a bunch of these and recently planted one--I am hesitant to say it's a winner for South Florida due to our high ph. I am worried that it might have a hard time uptaking iron... fingers are crossed(the one I planted is a little bigger than the one you are contemplating on, currently. I hope it will grow for you guys!

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On 1/31/2013 at 6:45 PM, LJG said:

How far from the Bizzie is the possible planting area? You know how big Bizzies get right? Mine has about a 25-30 foot spread.

 

As far as your Dypsis sp. Darkmealy, I have had one in the ground for three winters now. It was planted from a big 3 gallon so about twice the size of yours. The last leaf that opened is about 3 feet long so it is getting established. However it is always under shade cloth. Anytime a leaflet pops out the shade cloth it burns. I would assume this plant will need protection from full sun for many years before it is ready to handle our hot, dry sun. Ideally I bet this plant would do great with morning sun or late afternoon sun until it grows to some size.

Do you have pictures of your Dypsis Darkmealy palm?

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On 1/31/2013 at 1:01 PM, Jastin said:

I've had one of these now for a year and its working on its 2nd leaf. It's been outside on the west side of my house under a tree. After looking over a few past threads I have an idea of where I want to plant it but I wanted your suggestions and your opionions on the spot I have picked out.

 

I would love to know all the requirements they need so i can attempt to grow it here in So Cal. The spot I have picked out is full south facing sun till about 4pm on a small steep slope with great drainage. The hedge will protect it from wind till it gets above it and the rocks I put around it hopefully will hold the heat. There is a deciduous tree that would hang over the planting spot but not shade it out.

 

Thanks for your input and picture of yours would be great!

 

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This pic faces south and the temp sensor on the ground is where I would plant it.

 

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Did you plant your darkmealybug palm after all? If you did can we see pictures?

Zone 10A

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