By Michael Dourney
Recent reader, new time caller. I live in Tampa, FL and have a Canary Island Date Palm that was recently diagnosed with palmetto weevils. Our local arborist was not able to come out quickly, but successfully and accurately diagnosed it with images and a phone call. Despite everyone that I spoke with saying that the tree should be pulled, I read some guidance on this form as well as from a You Tube video suggesting a few courses of action, including:
Fertilome Tree & Shrub Drench Gallon and
7.9% Bifenthrin Concentrate for Insect Control, which as the gentleman in the video (who was dealing with severe issues in South America suggested), I applied by drilling into some of the lower fronds with a 1.5" auger bit in order to spray the Bifenthrin into the bud. I also dumped some fire ant powder into the top of the bud, again something else that I read on a forum. I was desperate and was trying whatever I could. I only removed fronds that were drooping and brown with weevil tunnels...trying to give the tree a chance by leaving the greener fronds (mainly on one side as you will see). And I have remained patient.
That was all back in March, it is now Mid May. I've done some repeat application between then and now of the Bifrenthrin. The fronds that were not infected have held up all this time (see pictures). And most recently, there are some frizzy new frond spikes that have started to emerge (again, see photos). My question to this illustrious group is, (a) is this actual new growth, (b) is there any chance this palm will survive and recover to some sort of decent life, and (c) at this point, what should I do to help the palm?
Thanks in advance for the replies. This is a whole new ordeal for me...not necessarily the greenest thumb, but I've put in a lot of effort. If this guy survives, I'm popping some serious champagne. Be well!
By Nomad NYC
Hello! This is my very first post in the PalmTalk! I've lurked here on and off over the years, but only recently joined this forum.
This new thread will document my "insane" project of trying to grow a Canary Island Date Palm ( aka Phoenix Canariensis ) here in Southern Queens, New York City - currently in Zone 7B. I've always interested in growing exotic types of plants all my life. But I first became aware of this particular palm after managing to germinate some seeds that I picked up from in front of a very big pot-bound Canary Island Date Palm that happened to be in front of the United States Botanic Garden (USBG), while I was visiting Washington DC back in 1994. For around the period of twenty years, I grew a CIDP in a big pot, and despite it becoming quite large , it didn't flower so I never found out what sex it was.. Unfortunately in late spring of 2015, I took it outside, as usual for the season, and it suddenly died during a brief freak heat wave.
I then attempted to grow Canary Island Date Palms again the next year, from seeds purchased from RarePalmSeeds.com, but out of ten of those seeds, only two germinated, and of those, only one seedling survived. Then in the following year, in 2017, during a visit to San Francisco, I collected a bunch of seeds from a CIDP at the southeast corner of Union Square , which when I returned to New York, I promptly planted , with most of them easily germinating . From those seedlings now consist my current crop of Canary Island Date Palms ( about four of those palms ) but I had so many previously, and didn't have the space , that I gave most of those palms away .
During the beginning of the Pandemic, I was stuck at home, watching more YouTube videos than I would normally, and happened to come across a few Palm enthusiast "Zone Pushing" palms in places that were not their original optimal growing area. So I figured, why don't I try to do that too! I decided to try and plant several varieties of cold hardy-ish palms that was growing at the time, outside in ground - two CIDP, and four Sabal Palmettos at my house here in Queens, and two CIDP , two Sabal Palmettos and two Sabal Minors at my sister's place in Brooklyn. Of all the Canary Island Date Palms that I planted in ground in 2020, only the one Palm that was germinated from that seed from RarePalmSeeds.com was cold hardy enough to be able to survive so far ( All of the San Francisco seed germinated palms planted in ground did not survive the winter of 2020-2021).
Following are some of the initial pictures that I took to document this Canary Island Date Palm project -
Original planting location - June 2020:
Fall 2021 - first full year in ground at new, final location:
Here is my Winter 2021 - 2022 protection for the Canary Island Date Palm:
March 2022 ( Spring , after removing winter protection )
Yes, I admit, it doesn't look so hot right now , but it should improve when the weather warms up ..
That's it for now - I will try to update this thread monthly - and thanks for taking the time to read about this crazy endeavor of mine!
I was browsing Craigslist the other day and found someone selling a decent size canary island date palm for cheap. Decided to buy it from him. The poor palm definitely outgrew the 15gal pot it was in. He said the palm was between 12-15 years old. He obtained some seeds from the Tucson zoo and grew it. Thankfully I was able to plant it and get it out of the pot it was in. Weather here in AZ where I am has been amazing. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the 40s. Here are some pics of the palm. You can actually see that this palm is starting to flower.
Forum members may recall I posted a video about a year, year and a half ago of one of my Butiagrus palms I lost to trunk rot. Well, now I lost my other, older Butiagrus palm to trunk rot. Both palms were planted about 50 feet apart from each other. Both palms were favorites of mine. The one I just lost I had been growing in the ground (started as a root bound 15 gallon size) since the spring of 2002. I was sorry to lose this palm. Now I feel I must replace this palm. I will start my search in about one month from now. I also recently lost a spindle palm with four feet of trunk to trunk rot, but this palm was growing at least 300 feet away from my Butiagrus. Now I must locate and buy another spindle palm, preferably one with some trunk.
In any event, below is some video and photos I took of my dying Butiagrus palm and cutting it down and disposing of it. I cut most of the palm down, but I was having too much trouble with my chainsaw chain cutters getting quickly clogged with dead palm trunk fibers. I had a palm trimming company I frequently use to come in and haul away the trunk, cut the stump off and grind it.
Lost another queen palm to ganoderma butt rot. No great loss at all to me, just the hassle of cutting down and removing the palm.