PalmGuyWC 1,486 Report post Posted January 21, 2007 Mine is about head high to the tip of the fonds. It's growing under open sky and very exposed. It's come through 23 F with no damage, while a Parajubaea T V T and a Bismarkia near by show some damage. Dick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,486 Report post Posted January 21, 2007 I forgot to mention, while the Parajubaea and Bismarkia have been covered during the recent Jan. freeze, the Butia X Parajubaea has not been protected. I think it's going to be a super palm and will extend the range where palms can be grown. Mine has been covered with hard frosts for the past month. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon T 4 Report post Posted January 27, 2007 Gotta echo the hybrid praise. I also have a butia x parajubaea, 18'' tall, already pinnate, that shows NO damage after fourteen degrees twice and lots of hours below twenty for night after night. I did put an old thin dish towel over it at some point, but the uncovered parts were equally unscathed. Jon T. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,486 Report post Posted January 27, 2007 If there is any good new coming from our recent freezes, it's the hardiness of Butia X Parajubaea. Jon, that's increadable that yours took 14F twice with no damage. Mine took 23 F and night after night of freezing temps. Nigel from the UK reported his took 50 nights of below freezing and down to 18F. This has to be one of the most exciting new hybrids to come along in many years, and it looks like it's going to be a beautiful palm. Mine grew like a weed in the ground last summer and I expect it will double in size this summer. It's head high now. Dick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMBreland 19 Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Wow, you guys are getting me excited. I'm just now discovering the Butia-Parajubaea hybrid. Tell me how I could obtain one to trial here on the north Gulf Coast. Also, would be great to see pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve 9atx 2 Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Jeremy I have three in the ground from seedling planted out in 2004. I have never protected them. This past winter, I had three nights of 33F and one of 28-29F for a few hours overnight. They haven't shown any sensitivity to these temps. Of the three, two are probably 8' tall to the tips. One is lagging way behind - I have a sneaking suspicion it's pure Parajub. Here is one (it's the one in the foreground). Use the 6' fence for scale: Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve 9atx 2 Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Here's a view of the frond on-end where you can see the tilt of the rachis: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve 9atx 2 Report post Posted June 23, 2007 And one final pic of the burlap: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMBreland 19 Report post Posted June 23, 2007 It looks quite attractive. Thanks for the pictures, Steve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakypalmguy 490 Report post Posted January 6, 2009 Small seedling just going pinnate. 25F and many hours and nights at or below freezing. No damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chlorophylle 1 Report post Posted September 17, 2009 Where can I find this wonderfull hybrid ? I'm french and this hybrid doesn't exist in Europe, or I don't know where ! (sorry for my bad english level ! ) Somebody can help me to find it ? I have a nursery so I could be intersed by seeds , seedlings or bigger sizes. Thank you for your help ! My e-mail : contact@terrelointaine.fr 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,486 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Christophe, Contact Patrick Schafer at E-mail PLS@Hughes.net and his tel. no. is 707 895-3722. He is located in northern California and is the only one that I know of that has these hybrids. Dick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chlorophylle 1 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Christophe, Contact Patrick Schafer at E-mail PLS@Hughes.net and his tel. no. is 707 895-3722. He is located in northern California and is the only one that I know of that has these hybrids. Dick Thank you very much ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 754 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Just stumbled on to this thread......wow! those are some low temps. Is Patrick going to start marketing these do you think? There is definately a market. Beautiful Palms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,486 Report post Posted September 27, 2009 Just stumbled on to this thread......wow! those are some low temps. Is Patrick going to start marketing these do you think? There is definately a market. Beautiful Palms. David, Yes, Patrick has some of these available. In my opinion they are the best hybrid that he has done. It's a beautiful durable hybrid, but they are rather pricey, but well worth the money. Mine has grown so fast it almost doubles in size each year. Dick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kailua_Krish 582 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Spear pull this winter after a low around 20 but foliage mostly undamaged, very small plant and am confident this one will gain cold tolerance as it ages. -Krishna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,778 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 Can someone point me in a possible direction as to where I might be able to get one of these? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffy 485 Report post Posted February 3, 2013 My Butia X Parajubaea just lost its spear at only 28.5F. Why? Wet snow followed by below freezing temps for 2 days. Add in a consistent pattern of heavy frost. This palm took slightly cooler temperatures with no damage last year. This year it has lots of bronzing from ice sitting on the fronds for a extended period of time. Size wise, this guy is 5 feet tall with a softball size base. Not enough mass yet, I suppose. I've been treating with hydrogen peroxide. Let's see how it recovers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffy 485 Report post Posted January 20, 2014 Smoked fronds at 16 F. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussiegrower 2 Report post Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Patrick's email isn't working. Does anyone have a current email? Edited July 11, 2017 by Aussiegrower correction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom in Tucson 314 Report post Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/10/2017, 11:36:40, Aussiegrower said: Patrick's email isn't working. Does anyone have a current email? Try coolhybrids@wildblue.net Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ Hi 104°, Lo 74° - showers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJ 672 Report post Posted February 16, 2020 On 1/19/2014 at 9:16 PM, buffy said: Smoked fronds at 16 F. @buffy Did this guy make it through the winter of 17/18? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffy 485 Report post Posted February 16, 2020 Protected with moving blankets. Yes. It's still small. I have a toralyi mule next to it. I'm hoping it's more leaf hardy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OC2Texaspalmlvr 1,135 Report post Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, buffy said: Protected with moving blankets. Yes. It's still small. I have a toralyi mule next to it. I'm hoping it's more leaf hardy. Tori mule how cool , Patric hybrid right ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJ 672 Report post Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, buffy said: Protected with moving blankets. Yes. It's still small. I have a toralyi mule next to it. I'm hoping it's more leaf hardy. I’ve been thinking of grabbing a toralyi cross. I’ve got a sunka as well. My bxpjc is pretty darn quick.at least as fast as a mule if not faster. Hard to believe yours is still small. Shade? I’ve yet to see a good sized bxpjt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffy 485 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 No. Gets smoked by bad frost. It's F1 mule variability. My leaves are very parajubaea like. I'm hoping the toralyi overtakes it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropicdoc 462 Report post Posted February 15, 2021 Projected to 20 F tonight maybe this is overkill? I even have heaters in the foil tubes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryland 157 Report post Posted March 30, 2021 @Tropicdoc, if it were me and I were against weather like you (and I believe much of the US south) saw in February, I would have done something similar for my palms. Perhaps overkill depending on the temperatures but I would regret losing a palm when I knew I could have saved it (better safe than sorry, I suppose). They look nice, I hope they made it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropicdoc 462 Report post Posted March 30, 2021 Oh yeah they made it! Enjoying them right now snapped this pic for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropicdoc 462 Report post Posted March 30, 2021 Notice the lantana were wiped out to the ground. Coming back now though. Only palms damaged were ones I knew were marginal. 4 kings and 2 alfies. All Are still alive though after 22 F. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OC2Texaspalmlvr 1,135 Report post Posted April 28, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 5:10 PM, Tropicdoc said: 4 kings and 2 alfies. All Are still alive though after 22 F. That is great to hear !!! T J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
