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Caryota "himalaya"

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Seedlings have leaf damage at 23 degrees with overhead protection,

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Caryota maxima "Himalaya", three weeks after the big freeze.  Located in Sanger, CA.  Owner reports lows several days in the 18-22F range.  No overhead protection.  Surrounded by concrete walkways.  Spear looks green and healthy.  Caryota urens about 50' away burned to a crisp (probably dead).  Hundreds of C. revoluta a bit lower on the property have completely burned foliage.  Burned palm in the background is Wodyetia.

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Madera, CA (central San Joaquin valley)

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JMBreland Collaborator

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Several days of lows in the 18-22F range, that's encouraging. Did any frost form during the freezes there?

Jeremy Breland
itinerant public garden horticulturist
A native of the US Gulf Coast: USDA hardiness zone 8b-9b; AHS heat zone 8-9, Sunset climate zone 28; Trewartha climate classification: Cf-humid subtropical; Hot and humid summers with occasional droughts, warm and wet winters punctuated by cold snaps.

Currently in New Orleans, LA, zone 9b, heat zone 8

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Hasn't this palm been deemed synonymous with C. maxima?

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

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Kailua_Krish Veteran

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Heavy foliage damage to smaller seedlings at 21 degrees w/canopy. All are beginning to grow with warmer weather.

-Krishna

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Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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akaranus Rising Star

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only one night below freezeing with minimume down to -3,5C lasting 2 hours, no wind at all..........i think i have some kind of himalaya wimpy

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Phoenikakias Grand Master

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No, it's entirely normal with this sp! Unfortunately it has proven one of the most overestimated palms in terms of cold hardiness!:badday:Has it survived your's?

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spear is opening and its still green in lower part,  i think its still ok but i can expect this kind od damage every year and on long terms i dont think this palm will ever look good in my 9a/9b zone...

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Phoenikakias Grand Master

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Agree... BTW is this a Chryso clump behind the maxima? Some report also about its cold hardiness in the mediterranean climate?

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yes,and it was in the house during the cold...i think if i lefted it outside that it would die... i lost some hardier dypsis like decary and decipiens, i dont think areca is strong enough to even try...

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Phoenikakias Grand Master

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Love the game of. synonymity! (Chrysalidocarpus=Areca=Dypsis lutescens). Do not be though so certain about greater cold hardiness of ... NEOdypsis lol. Just be daring and use for your Areca a very poor but perfectly draining substrate, such as rest of building materials!!!

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Kostas Grand Master

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Just to give you a comparison, my small Carlota gigas went through very brief -3C while potted and their leafs looked better than that

But apart from their leaf hardiness, which i never found too good, they do have very good growing centre hardiness and can handle long duration freezes. Never tested C. gigas in such freezes, so i have no comparison for this aspect

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