Kathy 18 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 No damage whatsoever at 24F and no frost. And this is a palm I dug up and moved last summer. Multiple nights below 28F, small 15-gal sized. I think Dypsis in general is coming in stronger than I anticipated in this arctic event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spockvr6 22 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Yours sails through 24F.....and I couldnt even keep my D. decipiens alive in a pot this summer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doubravsky 692 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Three little ones - in the ground 1 1/2 years from 2 gal. pots. 24 degrees... multiple night below freezing, no damage at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattyB 2,015 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Dypsis decipiens, 2 gallon plant, in terracotta pot 24.1F, no frost, set about 5 feet from the garage wall, no overhang, some taller stuff around it but no direct overhead canopy. No damage. I think I saw it smile at me real slow like. :: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 8,664 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Three nights of 25FF (-4 C) no damage to potted specimens in 5-galloners. A large double, about 3 feet (1 m) tall, in the ground, three nights of 28 F (-1 C) no damage. dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghar41 201 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 (MattyB @ Jan. 16 2007,15:13)QUOTENo damage. I think I saw it smile at me real slow like. :: Classic line, Matty! Dypsis dippy living up to it's reputation at my place (24.9F). I left one uncovered, 30+ feet away from my fire pots, and it is... unscathed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 267 Report post Posted January 17, 2007 27F for about 5 hours caused some leaf color changes in a 18" tall, 5 year old seedling, no protection. Looks like this seedling will nearly completely defoliate. Hint of a new spike showing that looks green, though. After checking other local temps that night, seems it might have gotten down to 25F a bit further from the house, so maybe 27F was not an accurate estimation (though accurate some 5' away from this plant). scroll down to last photo of my seedling and you can see what the cold did to it. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/57406/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JEFF IN MODESTO 341 Report post Posted January 17, 2007 This one surprized me... Very healthy 7 ft tall to the top of the emerging spear ) Dypsis Decipiens... Planted 4 ft from my house , one leaf has some damage as seen in the pic below. About the same damage to my same sized Parajubea Cocoides... only the p. Cocoides is much further away from my house. Official Modesto low temp 23f... My garden thermometer low temp 26f. Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alicehunter2000 705 Report post Posted January 17, 2007 Yes! Love this data......keep it coming. These cold data threads should be left up indefinately so that all the members can keep posting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neoflora 148 Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Perfect! I think it is laughing at the conditions. It is a Super Decipens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorCal 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2007 Six seedlings in treepots starting to put out devided fronds doing fine after 2-27°F nights under East faceing carport, 2 3/4 miles from the Pacific in McKinleyville Ca. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwan 207 Report post Posted January 23, 2007 Yesterday, I stopped by the Nickel Palm Nursery in Shafter, CA on my way home from LA. Phil has had extended freezes with several lows in the 15-18F range. I noticed three D. decipiens in ground and all three had different damage. One had moderate damage. The other two were within 6' of each other. One was under the canopy of a Livistona chinensis and didn't look too good, but didn't look fatal. BTW, the L. chinensis was 30-40% tip burned. The other one was fully exposed and was showing almost now damage. Mixed results. Phil is not on this forum, but I think he may show up (at least as a lurker) after this freeze is over and he can rest. He had more in pots. Forgot if there was any damage, but they were protected with bonfires and fans. Sorry, no pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwan 207 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 15g palms under oak canopy show no damage three weeks after the big freeze. Owner reports lows several days in the 18-22F range. Hundreds of C. revoluta a bit lower on the property have completely burned foliage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JEFF IN MODESTO 341 Report post Posted April 22, 2007 Heres a pic taken of my d. decipiens today... a couple of months after the killer freeze of 2007. Official low was 23f in Modesto. I would say that these palms are a little more hardy than Washingtonia's and queen palms... As I have seen some damage on those palms in the area. Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JEFF IN MODESTO 341 Report post Posted May 14, 2007 Another pic of my Dypsis Decipiens... Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 14 Report post Posted January 28, 2008 One plant, 3' OA height. 22f, multiple hours and nights below freezing 20% leaf burn Fully recovered Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 14 Report post Posted January 28, 2008 30 plants, 15 gal to 5 gal size 15 f, 13 hrs below freezing first night, thereafter too depressed to check my hi/lo. 5 nights into the hi teens/low twenties for sure, many hours below freezing All defoliated, lost over half. Somewhat surprised they all weren't killed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mppalms 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Steve, Were any of these plants protected at all? While I haven't yet had a good test of their frost tolerance, I've seen all my D. decipiens take day upon day of low daytime highs (mid-/upper-40s) and cold rain without blinking. I think it may be a winner for the SF bay area as well as SoCal. Thanks for your cold data. They are really helpful! I didn't realize it got so cold down there. I hope your losses over-all were minimal. Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 14 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 completely exposed.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mppalms 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 This palm is too good to be true. Thanks again for the great data, Steve. Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southlatropical 5 Report post Posted December 3, 2008 2 nights 29F (not back to back) slight frost. Small seedling about 14" tall put out it's first two adult leaves this year. No protection. No damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakypalmguy 309 Report post Posted January 6, 2009 27F and many hours and nights at or below freezing with many mornings with a short period of light frost. No damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mónica 7 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Hello. I have a Dypsis decipiens with two leafs. We had a warm winter, we have only reached 3°C. The palm tree has not grown anything... since I bought it, will make about 6 months. Now it begins to move ... Actually the termometer marks 20ºC max. and 10ºC min. Regards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnorell 316 Report post Posted March 25, 2009 A fairly small plant, about 12" high, bearing a few decent-sized bifid leaves, planted in pretty much full sun under open sky, slightly raised bed and sand-and-lava-enriched soil. Several freezes this winter, the worst being 15 hours, to 24.1F. No real damage. A few spots here and there but these may very well just be typical beat-up damage from any season. One small portion of the emerging spear looks to be necrotic but it is high up on the spear as opposed to closer in toward the bud (as typically happens in freezes to this weaker tissue on some Livistonas, Trachys, etc.)...so not sure if it is freeze-related or something else. But the palm is quite healthy and pushing a little over 1" per week right now (mid-March). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma99 567 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Another pic of my Dypsis Decipiens... Jeff Jeff that is a nice specimen. Where did you get yours? I'm trying to find something larger then just a seedling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmGuyWC 1,480 Report post Posted April 7, 2009 For what it's worth: I have 2 D. decipiens in 5 gal plastic containers. Mine have suffered more damage from heat than cold. I had a very hot day last summer and I think the roots got cooked. Maybe if they had been in the ground they would have faired better. Mine actually look better in the cooler months than in the summer. Dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krishnaraoji88 433 Report post Posted February 22, 2010 Multiple hours below freezing, ultimate low around 20. In a protected location between a pool and pond. Leaves are slightly burned at the tips but the spear pulled. Am hoping this plant will pull through. -Krishna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 234 Report post Posted April 23, 2010 Low of 14F. 14 days straight of below freezing temps. 50% overhead protection. ~30 Plants in pots (3gal to 10gal) and in the ground had some leaf damage and about 8 spears pulled out. Of these only 3 look like they are toast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krishnaraoji88 433 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Multiple hours below freezing, ultimate low around 20. In a protected location between a pool and pond. Leaves are slightly burned at the tips but the spear pulled. Am hoping this plant will pull through. -Krishna A year (and another bad winter) later the plant has fully recovered and is finally starting to put on a little bit of size! This plant is definitely worth trying if you live in central Florida. -Krishna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutter Bob 27 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 Another endorsement from the Sacramento Valley. Three survived a low of 20F in January. Added another one which is looking strong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulofthePlace 106 Report post Posted January 31, 2013 Multiple hours below freezing, ultimate low around 20. In a protected location between a pool and pond. Leaves are slightly burned at the tips but the spear pulled. Am hoping this plant will pull through. -Krishna A year (and another bad winter) later the plant has fully recovered and is finally starting to put on a little bit of size! This plant is definitely worth trying if you live in central Florida. -Krishna ...and South Carolina. I am in the center of SC and last winter we had ne night of 22F ad the rest were 25F, 28F and abover freezing. This winter we had about 3 nights with 28F and the rest was 30F and above freezing. So every winter we are getting half zone warmer and that is "officially" "still" a zone 8A.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutter Bob 27 Report post Posted February 1, 2013 UPDATE: Status of 3 one gallon trees planted in 2011: Lost one last summer that was out in the open unprotected and just ran out of steam after the Jan 2012 hit. One by a rock near the south side of the house with some cover looks awesome, pushing a beautiful new spear (basically no damage). One with partial protection from Italian Cypress to its east looked pretty good last summer and fall but has taken a hit this January. A one gallon that I planted nearby that last one last year looks very good. A betafaka near that one also looks ok. Status of a 5 gallon planted in open last summer: Ratty but alive. I think some will do ok and even well here but microclimates will be key. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew92 943 Report post Posted April 9, 2016 So could you say that Dypsis decipiens is more cold hardy than a queen palm? or the same? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albey 73 Report post Posted November 10, 2016 On 10/04/2016, 7:29:54, Opal92 said: So could you say that Dypsis decipiens is more cold hardy than a queen palm? or the same? That's a funny question to me, and i will tell you why. Dypsis decipiens for me is a better grower than Syagrus romanzoffiana is in my climate. Frost hardiness is about the same here as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albey 73 Report post Posted November 10, 2016 1 night at -4.7°c ( 23.5°f ) and 11-hours below 0°c ( 32°f ) - About 5-10% damage to most exposed leaves. Palms are fine and growing well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenikakias 1,678 Report post Posted November 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Albey said: That's a funny question to me, and i will tell you why. Dypsis decipiens for me is a better grower than Syagrus romanzoffiana is in my climate. Frost hardiness is about the same here as well. Whole matter is a bit complicated. A well grown plant is always cold hardier than a miserable one and a cool loving palm is well grown in a place with mild to warm summer and vice versa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albey 73 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/11/2016, 9:33:09, Phoenikakias said: Whole matter is a bit complicated. A well grown plant is always cold hardier than a miserable one and a cool loving palm is well grown in a place with mild to warm summer and vice versa. I agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
