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Hyophorbe verschaffeltii


Kim

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Three plants total:  one seedling in a pot under cover, one 2-ft, first winter in ground, one 5-ft, second winter in ground.  Lowest low 31, dry.  Those in ground noticeably more yellow than before the severe cold, although they were already somewhat yellow.  These are planted in a south-facing area close to a garage wall which radiates heat after sundown.  Seedling looks fine.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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28F, no frost. Unhappy to be sure, but never looks well in winter either. 4 ft. plant. Looks to survive, if it gets a break.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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No frost.

Seems to be ok right now. Still yellowy. In the warmest part of the yard which didn't get below 34F either morning. The rest of the yard was 29F Sun AM and this morning. No frost.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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2 foot high palm.Protected under an large orange hazard cone. No frost, no damage. 32 degrees for a  few hour. 32 degrees is the bottom temp.

David

Hollywood Hills West, Los Angeles, CA USA

Southwest facing canyon | Altitude 600 - 775 feet | Decomposing granite
USDA Zone 10b | AHS 6 | Sunset Zone 23 | Köppen Csb | No frost or freezes
Average Low 49 F°/9.4 C° | Average High 79 F°/28.8 C° | Average Rainfall 20"/50.8 cm

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These survived 29 degrees in my filed last year with a hard frost...bottles and spindles!  They are coming back still but really don't look half bad.  This was a one night event.

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  • 11 months later...

Went below 32F at 330am, went back above 32F by 830am. 5 total hours of freezing temperatures. Ultimate low of 29.7F with 7.6 "freezing degree hours" calculated as discussed in the weather forum. Moderate winds varying from NNW to NNE all night, dewpoints in low teens, no frost. No overhead canopy in my yard. No protection provided. Photos from 4 days after the freeze event.

Variable damage from minimal to severe.

East side of house:

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North side of yard:

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South side of yard:

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Northwest exposure, open yard:

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Parrish, FL

Zone 9B

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  • 1 year later...
Three plants total:  one seedling in a pot under cover, one 2-ft, first winter in ground, one 5-ft, second winter in ground.  Lowest low 31, dry.  Those in ground noticeably more yellow than before the severe cold, although they were already somewhat yellow.  These are planted in a south-facing area close to a garage wall which radiates heat after sundown.  Seedling looks fine.

Two years and one month update: the seedling in the pot didn't survive, but the two palms in the ground continue to grow through winter. This year the low temps never went below 36.1F, and many nights well above 40F. The winter was quite mild, with several stretches of warm, summer-like days well into the high 70s. Everything in the garden is yellowish, but very little damage otherwise, even on tender ti plants. By this time (mid-Feb), lower temps are out of the question, the difficulty will be not high enough highs for the next two months.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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  • 11 months later...

This one took 3 weeks of sub zero temps with at least 2 excursions to -4c/24.8v and 2 lower dips to -5c/23f.

It is planted as an experiment understory to my Washingtonia robusta which has severely fried.

It looked OK for a while although the remaining new frond which did not get sunburnt last summer has gone a darker green. Also a storm has now since snapped the remaining good frond in half! Only time will tell if it recovers......

Regards Andy.

Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -2.0C so far, verging on 9b this year. No snow or Frost this Winter. Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way. Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town

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Both my large (10-12 ft) spindles got through out epic 2-week cold spell with only minor damage. The cold included a number of days where highs didn't reach 50F and nights fell to near freezing. On Jan. 9 we received nearly 1" of rain and temps didn't rise above mid-30s. That night saw a low of 33F. But on Monday morning, Jan. 11, the thermometer in our backyard lemon tree recorded 28.5F. I tend to believe that reading, as 1 week later our lemon trees dropped damaged (mushy) fruit. That has never happened before.

Through all that our 2 spindles suffered frond burning and bronzed crownshafts. Given a more normal remainder of winter, they should pull through with few problems.

Hyophorbe verschaffeltii damaged crown

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Hyophorbe verschaffeltii frond damage

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Hyophorbe verschaffeltii crownshaft bronzing

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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  • 3 weeks later...

This is my Hyophorbe verschaffeltii after consistent cold temperatures with a low of 35F and highs struggling to hit 60F. from Jan.2-11,2010:

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What you look for is what is looking

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  • 1 year later...

Here's a spindle at Vero Beach's community center, a month after December's cold with (at the airport, at least a mile from this spot, which might be slightly warmer), 26 F (-3 C), then 28 two weeks later. There was no frost during the month, and none since then.

This palm's on a dry site with no irrigation, so is much smaller than one in partial shade and irrigation at Heathcote Botanical Gardens in Ft. Pierce.

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Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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  • 7 years later...

Here in NW Orlando we had a night in mid-December 2018 that was an estimated windy 35F, one frond burned on each of 2 spindles in my backyard with no cover.  January 21st we had 4 hours at 33-34F and they are showing a lot more burn.  These were planted in April 2018 nearly dead (basically free to me to rescue) and were still pretty significantly potassium deficient in December.  The leaflets were probably 85% green in December.  Nearby potted bottles and foxtails were basically untouched, with only a small amount of leaflet tip damage.  

So the moral of the story: Make sure your palms are healthy and well-fertilized before winter! :D 

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  • 1 year later...

Constant cool frostless weather (50s to 60s year round) seems to be much worse to a palm than occasional freezes and then recovering in hot weather.

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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  • 8 months later...

My Lagenicaulis and Verschaffeltii in pots and in the ground and less than 10' from the house were fine under canopy at 31F, with medium frost everywhere else in the back yard.  They were essentially undamaged, with just a little bit of yellowing and spotting. 

5x Verschaffeltii in the front yard bed next to the garage were at 31F and exposed to frost with about 50-75% leaf burn. 

1x Lagenicaulis and 3x Verschaffeltii on the east side (about 8' from the house) were exposed to frost.  Lagenicaulis was 100% burned but is opening up a new spear in mid-February.  Verschaffeltii were about 50% burned.

Lagenicaulis and Verschaffeltii exposed to frost at 28F in the back yard were completely defoliated.  2x trunking Verschaffeltii are trying to open new fronds, one spear is mostly open and looks pretty decent.  2x Lagenicaulis have burned spears and might open around early March.

Given this experience I'll be moving the survivors to sheltered areas before next winter.

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