PalmatierMeg 7,334 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 This is my oldest Sabal Lisa, a generous gift from Rusty on Pine Island in May 2008 (thanks, Rusty). It is starting to go palmate and what an awesome palm. I've never seen or touched anything like it. The fronds feel like plastic. I've got it up front in my Caribbean garden. Sabal Lisa 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marc_S 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Meg, That is a beautiful palm and I hope that my seedlings will be once like your palm. 70% sprouted and grow slow but steady. Regards Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmislandRandy 282 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Nice Meg! Out of 8 seedlings I got from you last year, it looks like 5 of them are Lisas. -Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,334 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Marc & Randy, that's good news. I'm hoping they do well for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newtothis 7 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 I hope to have one of those one day. Are they a var of palmetto or mexicana? I assume they are as cold hardy as regular sabal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmislandRandy 282 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Meg, Here are some pics of the lot. The three on the right have gone pinnate, so I assume they are regulars. Do you think they are ready for the ground or wait until this spring or even longer. -Randy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,334 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 I hope to have one of those one day. Are they a var of palmetto or mexicana? I assume they are as cold hardy as regular sabal? They are Sabal palmetto and every bit as hardy as normal Sabals Randy, as you are in Boca I don't see why you can't plant them now. Their roots outgrow pots quickly and they need strong roots to feed the top growth. In the ground they can really get their root systems going over the next couple months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 1,393 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Dear Meg Thanks for those beautiful visuals.... Love, kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalmatiansoap 460 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Beautifull Meg! How old are they? 5 years or less? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmislandRandy 282 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Here's what you get if you if you wait. This one is a few feet from a freshwater canal at the Deerfield Beach Arboretum, in South Florida. Nice one Jerry -Randy 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peachy 294 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Meg sent me some Lisa seeds early this year, most of which sprouted and are now in baby pots outside and doing well. (thank you very much for those and others Meg) So Mr Randy, how many decades (centuries, millienia or eons) before mine look like the above photo of that delish specimen ? Peachy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimhardy 651 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Thats a nice one Meg Hopefully my seedlings will look like that some day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,775 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 I hear that "lisa" is not nearly as hardy, to cold, as the standard palmetto... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 368 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 I hear that "lisa" is not nearly as hardy, to cold, as the standard palmetto... I haven't heard that. Some very nice Sabal "Lisas" in Savanah Georgia http://exoten.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/hardy.cgi?function=2&index=C9F87BD0FCA46E5C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,334 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 I would guess mine is pushing 4 years old. I got it as a 2-strapleafer in a cone. I hope it looks like the one in Randy's photo in a couple years. It chugs through winter without a whimper so it should do at least as well in Boca Raton. Peachy, you got a few years to wait - sorry. Maybe yours will look like mine in 3-4 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amazon exotics 12 Report post Posted October 20, 2011 Here's what you get if you if you wait. This one is a few feet from a freshwater canal at the Deerfield Beach Arboretum, in South Florida. Nice one Jerry -Randy Beautiful !!! I think he may have gotten that one from us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,775 Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Tank--good to know Meg sold me 3 and they look a lot like Randy's; I was gonna give one to my grandma in Panama City Beach, but it sounds like Meg advises against this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 368 Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Tank--good to know Meg sold me 3 and they look a lot like Randy's; I was gonna give one to my grandma in Panama City Beach, but it sounds like Meg advises against this... I think you may have misread her. To quote Meg: "They are Sabal palmetto and every bit as hardy as normal Sabals" I think they would do great in Panama City Beach. The few in Savannah looked good after a pretty bad winter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,775 Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Tank--you may have misread me; I was making a joke. "Not your granny's Sabal"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Johnson 199 Report post Posted October 21, 2011 One thing about the Streets ( thats Andrews maiden name, he's getting married tomorrow )is their humor is so well placed tha tit almost always hits me after a small delay which they (he and his father) build into the joke pourposly. Grandmother indeed. Many years ago the presentatiom of Sabal Lisa occoured at a South Florida Palm Society and some seedlinds were offered. I know where one is with 4' of trunk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 368 Report post Posted October 21, 2011 I'm still laughing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peachy 294 Report post Posted October 22, 2011 One thing about the Streets ( thats Andrews maiden name, he's getting married tomorrow )is their humor is so well placed tha tit almost always hits me after a small delay which they (he and his father) build into the joke pourposly. Grandmother indeed. Many years ago the presentatiom of Sabal Lisa occoured at a South Florida Palm Society and some seedlinds were offered. I know where one is with 4' of trunk. No time lag with mine Ken. Peachy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,775 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 These are down the road, a ways from my house. My wife says this is for you, Moose--thanks for the lisa! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moose 1,499 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 These are down the road, a ways from my house. My wife says this is for you, Moose--thanks for the lisa! Andrew - You know you stole that palm! I donated it as an auction palm for the SFPS meeting and your good fortune was that nobody there had a clue what it was other than "a Sabal". It came from Meg two years ago and is jammed full of roots. My advice - put it in the ground yesterday! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty on Pine Is. 39 Report post Posted February 12, 2012 Darn missed out on planting a good palm....Shoot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ampli 12 Report post Posted February 12, 2012 These are down the road, a ways from my house. My wife says this is for you, Moose--thanks for the lisa! This Sabal "Lisa" look very healthy, I really would like to have this strange Sabal cultivar in my garden. Have this speciment started to flowering? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,775 Report post Posted February 12, 2012 Yeah, it's flowering--I think I'm gonna steal some seed, since that's what I do--STEAL. Moose, way to be happy for a fellow palm enthusiast! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,334 Report post Posted February 16, 2012 I took these updated photos of my largest Sabal Lisa today. Doesn't seem like it's grown much since October. Sabal palmetto Lisa 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamjv 118 Report post Posted February 16, 2012 Nice updated shots Meg, looking good and happy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerry@TreeZoo 578 Report post Posted February 17, 2012 Here's what you get if you if you wait. This one is a few feet from a freshwater canal at the Deerfield Beach Arboretum, in South Florida. Nice one Jerry -Randy Beautiful !!! I think he may have gotten that one from us? Hi Derek, Sorry I did not respond to this thread when it first came out. Yes, I got two from you, the big one went into the Arboretum and the little one into my back yard. Must have been at least 4 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kumar 153 Report post Posted February 17, 2012 Great Photos Meg! I have an American Sabal, content to inch along in its pot, with huge strap leaves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulofthePlace 121 Report post Posted August 8, 2013 I would love to buy 100 seeds of Sabal palmetto 'Lisa'. Just found out about it today... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 818 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Any update on your Lisa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLeVert 251 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Here is a Sabal with Lisa-like qualities in Savannah, GA. Never had any cold-damage. Two of these emerged out of a batch of S. causiarum seed from Tampa, FL. And another one. And a close up showing some papery ligules. There is a third one in the same batch that will throw a variegated leaf every once in a while. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Central Floridave 97 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Cool palm photo above. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 368 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Joe, How many seeds did you start with? I have about 50 potential Lisa's that are close to showing if they are the real deal. Of those about 15 or so are already seeming to show the characteristics with potentially 10 or so more that have the right feel to the leaf. Is 50% too much to wish for? Probably won't know on most of them until the end of this summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLeVert 251 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 The Lisa-likes started looking funny pretty quickly. I would say after they made their 5th leaf and were in a 2 gal. container. I have no idea what the percentage of Lisa's you would get. I'm going down to Savannah in a couple of weeks ( Southeastern Palm Society Meeting), and maybe those babies will have some seed on them. They certainly are old enough to produce. I'll let you know.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabal Steve 897 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Why do I still not have seeds for one of these... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mantis sp. 18 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Here is a Sabal with Lisa-like qualities in Savannah, GA. Never had any cold-damage. Two of these emerged out of a batch of S. causiarum seed from Tampa, FL. And another one. And a close up showing some papery ligules. There is a third one in the same batch that will throw a variegated leaf every once in a while. Wow looks like Sabal x Cocotrinax! Very nice palm, congrats! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Mondel 818 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I wish there was some way I could collect seeds and disperse them out to people who will preserve this variety of Sabal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
