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MattyB

Dypsis pembana, 2 gallon size plant, in ground, 2 feet tall to tip of new spear.

24.1F, no frost, planted under a Queen Palm and next to a hedge, covered with a sheet.

No immediate damage/burn.  This palm normally shows some spotting during winter, which it's been doing for several weeks due to the ongoing cold.

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DoomsDave

Amazingly, no damage neither!

Mine's a fifteen, yellow, to be sure.  I've moved it inside because I'm so [expletive] paranoid.

And, a baby under the P. hillebrandtii, still good.  (P. hilli, no so

good!)

dave

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quaman58

Mines on it's own, in the ground, in the worst part of the yard. (26F) Some browning, and yellow, but looks like a survivor to me.

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neoflora

I have a 15-18 foot plant in my garden. No damage!

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DoomsDave

(neoflora @ Jan. 18 2007,21:08)

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I have a 15-18 foot plant in my garden. No damage!

Temps?  DUration?

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neoflora

Temp. Colder than my drink! Duration. All night!

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quaman58

Update. Definitely dead @26F. Young plant, first year in ground.

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osideterry

Any updates on this one? The initial responses sounded promising, but I'm wondering if others went the way of Bret's.

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paulgila

i had one in the ground very similiar to brets--just pulled the spear this week after noticing it wasn't moving for a month or so...

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osideterry

I'll keep mine in a pot until it's huge. Just drag it in when it drops below freezing. After a few years of experiencing all but the worst my yard can offer, maybe I'll plant it. (Or sell it for the big bucks.)

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ellidro

I got down to 32 for two nights and the last spear just came out black.  I pulled it and put peroxide down the crown and has recovered nicely.  A new spear is growing extremely fast and the plant is starting to sucker.  I think if these survive the initial shock of the cold they have a good chance because they grow so fast.

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LJG

(ellidro @ Aug. 16 2007,20:06)

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I got down to 32 for two nights and the last spear just came out black.  I pulled it and put peroxide down the crown and has recovered nicely.  A new spear is growing extremely fast and the plant is starting to sucker.  I think if these survive the initial shock of the cold they have a good chance because they grow so fast.

Booo. 32 and that much damage? It would have been dead at 28 here I guess. I have 3 large ones I planted in spring. Two with trunk now.  Guess it might be like Geoff pointed out - this palm has been around for like 15 years. Why no adults in SoCal?

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ellidro

Len,

I saw Ron's huge pembana post freeze and it looked good.  I think the key for these guys is to pray for a few warm winters until they can get established. Once established I think it will do fine.

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LJG

Nick, I do not think Ron went below 32 from what I heard. I hope you are right. We will know soon enough.

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ellidro

I didn't have a single thermometer at my house read below 34 degrees but I did have ice in my hose one morning which tells me at ground level I reached 32.  When I toured dypsis deans yard post freeze he told me years prior he did an experiment with thermometers and three thermometers all bought at the same time, all the same make and sitting next to each other, had 3-4 degree temperature differences.   Next time you are at jungle music stick you hand closer to the floor and you will notice a huge temperature difference.  That being said I don't know of many people who put there thermometers on the ground because most of us are too darn lazy to bend over and look at it. I guess my point is I wouldn't get too stuck on the numbers, there is a fudge factor between all thermometers. Ron's yard got cold like the rest of ours.

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mnorell

4-leaf specimen (about 1gal size) planted under partial canopy...doesn't mind cool weather (50-degree mean temp for 3 months) and has actually thrown and opened a new leaf since October despite a wickedly chilly autumn.

5 light radiational frosts/freezes to 29-31F, each 3-7 hrs below freezing: no damage

1 advective freeze to 27F, 9.5 hrs below freezing: about 15-20% burn on one or two o leaves.

To protect foliage for good growth next season, I buried it under a mountain of mulch for the big 24F advective blast (but will not do this next year), and it appears in excellent condition.

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tikitiki

No damage at all after first night at 32F but got some spotting after frost last night. it is exposed and about 5ftOA

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JeffreyApolloBeach

The palm shows some damage after getting some frost on it. But, it looks way better than several Dypsis lustences that also recieved frost. I think this palm will do better for my yard here in the Tampa Bay area than Dypsis lustences. And it is a fast grower!

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Gallop

My D pemba 12' OA just starting to show a slight trunk 2 1/2 yrs in ground on south side against the house completely defoliated, looks like it will recover, the offshoot looks OK 2' tall, 13 nights below freezing, @ 8 to 10hr periods. Low around 21 f.

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PalmatierMeg

My D. pembana showed nearly no damage after the last marathon cold spell. Temps dropped to low to mid-30s about 5-6 nights, then to record 28.5 on Jan. 10-11. And it takes SW FL summer sun & heat. This is a tough, beautiful palm. I can't say enough about it.

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BigBpalms

I accidentally left a one gallon outside and it took 25 with no signs of damage- im going to plant alot of them on my property!

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Tracy

I planted this D Pembana from a 7 gallon in late 2010.  I know the garden has approached 32 for brief periods just before the sun rises, but I haven't measure temps consistently over the years.  No frost that I have seen since moving into the house in 2014.  A very fast grower and the one is now flowering in full sun exposure.  Others in the garden in partial sun are much more stretched, but its the only one flowering.  Great grower

 

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Josh-O
23 hours ago, Tracy said:

I planted this D Pembana from a 7 gallon in late 2010.  I know the garden has approached 32 for brief periods just before the sun rises, but I haven't measure temps consistently over the years.  No frost that I have seen since moving into the house in 2014.  A very fast grower and the one is now flowering in full sun exposure.  Others in the garden in partial sun are much more stretched, but its the only one flowering.  Great grower

 

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Hi Tracy, do you have a full money shot of your palm? It look a lot like D. lancelota

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Tracy
11 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

Hi Tracy, do you have a full money shot of your palm? It look a lot like D. lancelota

Hello Josh, This is the one that is flowering, grown in full sun.  The wall behind it is right at 6'.  I have others in the yard planted in partial shade and the ring spacing on those is of course much more spaced out.  I had a lanceolata on the sunny side which didn't make it, and another on the shadey side which is doing fine.  My challenge was that the house was a rental for almost 4 years, then we did a year long remodel, so many things were heavily abused.

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Tracy

This is the same age, planted in the ground 5 years ago, just like the one that was flowering.  It always had the garage on the right to it's east, but has had westerly shade from the patio cover since we added it, and you can see how much more stretched out it is.  Not the right angle to show the rings, but they are much more spaced than on the one in full sun.

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Tracy
19 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Hi Tracy, do you have a full money shot of your palm? It look a lot like D. lancelota

 The petiole and new leaf spike on the palm(0947) that is flowering differs from both my lanceolata and other pembanas, but was labeled as a D pembana when I purchased it.  I included a shot of what is more "typical" of the plants I have labeled as pembana.  I never saw any of the ones purchased as pembana with a new spike showing the pinkish color that the lanceolata shows, the new spike tends more to a light yellow/green where it emerges from the prior sheath.  I'm open for suggestions if it is something different.  Also included are the flowers.

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Josh-O
On 1/18/2016, 9:30:29, Tracy said:

I planted this D Pembana from a 7 gallon in late 2010.  I know the garden has approached 32 for brief periods just before the sun rises, but I haven't measure temps consistently over the years.  No frost that I have seen since moving into the house in 2014.  A very fast grower and the one is now flowering in full sun exposure.  Others in the garden in partial sun are much more stretched, but its the only one flowering.  Great grower

 

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they look fantastic!!!

Nice job :) 

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Merlyn

Several light frosts in early December 2020 at minimums of 33-36F with no damage to my 12-14' tall Pembana.  Christmas night 2020 was a minimum of 28F with medium frost and only to about 50F the next day, then 11 hours at 31-33F with a bit of frost on the morning of 12/27.  The top leaves were all scorched, but leaves not directly exposed to frost are fine.  3 weeks later and both of the taller trunks are pushing new spears, likely to open by the end of January.  Here's the temperature profile:594316225_Christmasfreeze2020.thumb.jpg.bcc73dd81b83ecee690e933259bbe026.jpgAnd here's the Pembana today:

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sonoranfans

I had 1 of 3 die in 2010 cold event 28F plus frost.  They were small, about 3-5 gallon size with ~2 1/2" caliper at the base.  The two survivors had spear pull, and -probably would have died had I not hammered them with peroxide and daconil several times.  I thought they were dead. I dug them out as "stumps" and put them in 5 gal containers then additional grow points appeared on 2/3 3 months later.  One is 25' today and fruiting prolifically the other about 15'(more shade).  I think they are ok at 28F if not too small.  None of my small(5-15 gllon size) royals, foxy ladies, or foxtails made it, even after peroxide/daconil.  These palms take a warm 9B for sure in florida, perhaps a cold one out west where the duration of cold is more brief.

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