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Name this palm game

Ken Johnson

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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I'll show my whole picture because I don't even know what this is. I do know a little about it but not enough to name a species.

I'll guess Copernicia rigida 'Eastern form'.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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The palm looks like a Copernicia and after researching Wal's guess I think it does looks like a C. rigida, but the infuctescence doesn't look like the what I've seen on Copernicias before. I thought the peduncular bract would be thinner. Maybe I'm wrong.

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paulgila Grand Master

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the picture is huge. its hurting my eyes.

i'm gonna say copernicia just since there are so many over there.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Palmə häl′ik

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awww. that's a easy one...

I'll just hold back until someone gets it... :rolleyes:

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

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Coccothrinax pauciramosa?

Genus is right. Do you have a pic of that?

The only picture I found was from the RPS web site - http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/CocPau.shtml

Your hint led me to Coccothrinax, but with 57 recognized species I just didn't have the time to check them all. Even though you hinted that this species is uncommon, that's still a lot. So I went to a 2005 Palms article "The Genus Coccothrinax in Cultivation" (Volume 49-2) and it has a section "Species worthy of wider cultivation" with about a dozen listed. That's where I found my guess. I also looked at the Fairchild herbarium photos and there it looked like a C. munizii.

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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Coccothrinax pauciramosa?

Genus is right. Do you have a pic of that?

The only picture I found was from the RPS web site - http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/CocPau.shtml

Your hint led me to Coccothrinax, but with 57 recognized species I just didn't have the time to check them all. Even though you hinted that this species is uncommon, that's still a lot. So I went to a 2005 Palms article "The Genus Coccothrinax in Cultivation" (Volume 49-2) and it has a section "Species worthy of wider cultivation" with about a dozen listed. That's where I found my guess. I also looked at the Fairchild herbarium photos and there it looked like a C. munizii.

That is a wild palm but not it.

This one has the funny looking erect leaves. Only locals from the 70's seem to have had it.

Looks a little like an echman type

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Can you guess this one fronm the shadow? There are other hints too Sherlock.

Ken I think it's the same palm that you posted picture of on FB today. You didn't give a name there, so it's still up for guessing. I have a guess in mind but I think it would be cheating since I've seen a better picture. Maybe I should just guess on FB?

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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Can you guess this one fronm the shadow? There are other hints too Sherlock.

Ken I think it's the same palm that you posted picture of on FB today. You didn't give a name there, so it's still up for guessing. I have a guess in mind but I think it would be cheating since I've seen a better picture. Maybe I should just guess on FB?

Sure guess on FB.

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Palmə häl′ik

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those pictures prove the motive...

they're the 'before' pics...

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

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Ken, I don't think it's a Coccothrinax or if it is, it is a hybrid... I am leaning towards an unknown Thrinax species. The crown is very tight, small and rigid. The seeds are BB sized and green when ripe. It almost reminds me of a Hemithrinax...

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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Ken, I don't think it's a Coccothrinax or if it is, it is a hybrid... I am leaning towards an unknown Thrinax species. The crown is very tight, small and rigid. The seeds are BB sized and green when ripe. It almost reminds me of a Hemithrinax...

It has solid leaf base and black seeds but seeds look goofy all the time, often full of insects. It could be a hybrid but several people have em just the same looking...hybrids r often different looking. There are Thrinax x Coccothrinax hybrids in nature but this looks like none I've seen. But could be.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Thrinax seeds will eventually turn black, but they ripen white. I don't this palm ripens black... what does Jody say--he has had to have come across this thing, before.

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I have not seen the one in the photo before, but I have seen 4 others--I believe I saw one at Jeff Searle's sale. He agrees, it's not a common palm--coming available only once a long time ago.

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I have not seen this palm before (that I know of), and I really have no idea what it might be without seeing it in person... and even then probably not!

Jody

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I have not seen this palm before (that I know of), and I really have no idea what it might be without seeing it in person... and even then probably not!

Jody

PRA is in need here.

I'm game.

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I have not seen this palm before (that I know of), and I really have no idea what it might be without seeing it in person... and even then probably not!

Jody

PRA is in need here.

Paperwork Reduction Act?

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sarasota alex

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Wodyetia bifurcata it is.

I took this photo of a 35' Foxtail's new leaf from a doctor's office on a third floor. Never seen one with color.

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Zeeth Grand Master

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I'll show my whole picture because I don't even know what this is. I do know a little about it but not enough to name a species.

What's the ID on this one?

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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I'll show my whole picture because I don't even know what this is. I do know a little about it but not enough to name a species.

What's the ID on this one?

It's a weird Coccothrinax. I will organise a PRA with some people to look at it.

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