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Name this palm game


Ken Johnson

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How about a chamaerops humilis or a Pigafetta?

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That doesn't happen there / So when you run make sure you run / To something and not away from

Cause lies don't need an aero plane / To chase you anywhere

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Pholidocarpus?

So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

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Livistona decora?

Skell's Bells

 

 

Inland Central Florida, 28N, 81W. Humid-subtropical climate with occasional frosts and freezes. Zone 9b.

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I'm stumped then. I thought it was Syagrus schizophilla for sure.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I'm stumped then. I thought it was Syagrus schizophilla for sure.

I was kinda thinkin' you were going in that direction. Would it help if I say this palm is clumping?

Jody

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Clumping....Licuala spinosa....

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Hooo boy, I should have gotten that, considering the number of times this palm stuck me. The close-up pic suggested (to me, anyway) a much larger trunk.

So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

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Clumping....Licuala spinosa....

Ding, ding, ding... give that man a prize! Good job, Steve.

Jody

Nice! I was moving onto Salacca and didn't even think about Licuala. Can you guys grow Salacca in Florida?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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OK, so for guessing game #3 I'm gonna guess Ravenea rivularis. :unsure:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I'm gonna throw one into the ring as well. Can you guess the name of this palm? :hmm: The two palms in the background are a helpful clue.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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hedyscepe canterburyana...

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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oops hedyscepe canterburyana for matts and i think r. rivularis as well

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Nope, not Hedyscepy, good guess though...if you think wrong answers are good. :lol:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Nice! I was moving onto Salacca and didn't even think about Licuala. Can you guys grow Salacca in Florida?

I have a Salacca zalacca for many years. It got pretty big. I can't remember what happened to it. It died either from a cold winter or too little water during a dry spell. But certainly in the right place and with sufficient water, we can grow them here.

Jody

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Nope Ken, not H. belmoreana, it wouldn't have a crownshaft. Those are H. forsteriana in the background though.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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So Jody's is not a Ravenea. Hmmmmmmmm. How about Orania palindan? :huh:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Mine is not from Lord Howe Island. The pic was take in San Diego at a garden.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Great guess Ken, I always think Carpoxylon when I see this pic! But not correct. I actually think that this palm can look very similar to Carpoxylon, but one major difference is that it grows very well in our SoCal climate.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Mine is not from Lord Howe Island. The pic was take in San Diego at a garden.

how are they a clue then???

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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If you see Howea then you know that the pic was probably not taken in a tropical climate and therefore that narrows it down. You haven't learned the art of background clues yet? I remember when I I.D.'d a Pseudophoenix that looked a lot like Dypsis decipiens because I noticed that the walls in the background were made from limestone; an obvious SoFla or Carribean clue.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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ugh. I knew its in Cali but what, what...

we know its pinatte, curving leaf, thinish trunk with congested leaf scars due to slow groth in cali.

Pacific palm? Clinostygma savorianum?

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i have much to learn oh wise one :bemused:

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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ugh. I knew its in Cali but what, what...

we know its pinatte, curving leaf, thinish trunk with congested leaf scars due to slow groth in cali.

Pacific palm? Clinostygma savorianum?

OK Ken, you're workin' it. Not Clinostigma though, think further south, but another good guess. You're right, the congested leaf scars are due to slow growth, but not because it's growing in California. This is incicative to the genus, of which I'm pretty sure there's only two named species, with several different named forms.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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