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Dypsis Baronii

doubravsky

By doubravsky
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doubravsky Mentor

doubravsky

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This was interesting. I have several- all from 5 gallon this year or last. One that was out in the colder area with no protection is toast....

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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doubravsky Mentor

doubravsky

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The others, all with varying degrees of protection, look ok to minor damage

(24 degrees)

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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4 foot tall trunking (4 trunks) in partial shade but no protection and 26.5F low. 50% leaf burn.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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MattyB Grand Master

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D. baronii, 2gal size plant in ground and 15 gal size plant in ground

same results

24.1F, no frost, no overhead canopy

Covered entire plants w/ 1 layer of cotton t-shirts

10% leaf burn, only on the top horizontal surfaces

Small one pictured, larger one similar damage.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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So far, (!)

6 foot tall specimens, in different spots, minimal damage, from 29 FF cold . . .

Shivering . . .

dave

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Kim Grand Master

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Four seedlings, second winter in the ground (slow!).  Lowest low 31, dry.  No damage visible.

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Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Patrick Veteran

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Dave (post 1), I'm assuming your unprotected D. baronii got the same lows as your protected ones?? Or was it slightly colder in the unprotected area?

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Geoff Mentor

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27F and both plants, about 5 years old, completely fried.  The smaller one is already dead.  Larger one looks like the spikes may survive (larger plant about 6' tall leaf tips).  This larger plant had quite a bit of protection, not only overhead from shade cloth and Strelitzia nicolai (totally fried), but also growing amonst other taller trees (Itallian Cypress)... and right next to (fronds overlapping) a Ravenea juliette that went nearly unscathed... yet this plant, 6' tall over all, with three healthy, happy stems, was completely and utterly defoliated... what a wimp!!!!  Was totally surprised by that.

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doubravsky Mentor

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Patrick, the worst one was in the coldest part of the yard... bottom of a 10' slope... where it looks like everything in that area got completely toasted.

The other one was nearer the house, and near the heated pool, which helped I believe.

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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JEFF IN MODESTO Mentor

JEFF IN MODESTO

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Single trunking d. Baroii ( 4 ft clear trunk )...  planted close to my house slight leaf damage.... Clumping d Baronii.... simular location.... no damage. My garden Thermometer 26f... Official Modesto temps 23f.

Jeff

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Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Egad!

My prior post, well, sucks.

Sorry.

Four days of 28-29 FF (-c) straight all night, or at least several hours, fully exposed, 5% damage.

All plants in the ground three+ years, trunking flowered first time this summer, so far so good.  

Babies in five-gallons, apparently stood up to three days of 24.8, then another day of 28 F, exposed.  No damage.  Hip-hip-hoo-ray!

dave

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27°F for two nights several 32°mornings one 3' in a large pot on South side of house with overhang, no damage 2 3/4 mi. from the Pacific in McKinleyville Ca.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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THings generally went well for the baronii, except for a bit of damage a couple of weeks after we had four days of 28-29 F, no frost:

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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and another view

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JEFF IN MODESTO Mentor

JEFF IN MODESTO

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Update 4/10/07

Single trunking d. Baronii in protected location dead.

Clumping d. Baronii ( looks much different than single trunk ) in less protected location... no damage.

I think these are two different Dypsis.

Jeff

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

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JEFF IN MODESTO Mentor

JEFF IN MODESTO

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Only palm in my garden that got zero damage... Must be the highland form.

Jeff

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Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

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mppalms Proficient

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Have any of the damaged D. baronii recovered this summer?  Mine were close to the house and our temp only hit 28 in Jan.; so, they didn't get tested.  Thanks.

Jason

Menlo Park, CA  (U.S.A.) hillside

Min. temp Jan 2007:  28.1 deg. F (-2.2 deg. C)

Min. temp winter 2008: 34.7 deg. F (1.5 deg. C)

USDA Zone 10A since 2000

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mppalms Proficient

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Quick refresh of this thread.  Did anyone who had serious (fatal-looking) damage on their clumping Dypsis see a recovery from the roots this summer?  I'm just wondering whether these palms are resilient when damaged..  Thanks.

Jason

Menlo Park, CA  (U.S.A.) hillside

Min. temp Jan 2007:  28.1 deg. F (-2.2 deg. C)

Min. temp winter 2008: 34.7 deg. F (1.5 deg. C)

USDA Zone 10A since 2000

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doubravsky Mentor

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I had two that had >50% leaf damage grow new spears, pulled them, and then it came back and seems ok.

Also had one that completely fried.... never to return :(

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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Thanks, Dave.  This is helpful for siting this palm.  Looks like it will need a lot of protection where I am.  

Jason

Menlo Park, CA  (U.S.A.) hillside

Min. temp Jan 2007:  28.1 deg. F (-2.2 deg. C)

Min. temp winter 2008: 34.7 deg. F (1.5 deg. C)

USDA Zone 10A since 2000

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STEVE IN SO CAL Mentor

STEVE IN SO CAL

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One plant, 7 stems, 5' OA height

22f, multiple hours and nights below freezing

70% leaf burn

One stem killed, remainder of plant fully recovered

If global warming means I can grow Cocos Nucifera, then bring it on....

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