tropicalb 46 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 22F...large mature specimen in the ground located at the bottom of a major cold drain. absolutely NO damage: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick 259 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 no damage on a youngster at 23 deg. f. practically buuletproof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycadcenter 24 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Fallbrook 15-16 degrees two nights NO damage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon T 4 Report post Posted January 23, 2007 b. capitata 14.7 - and lots of other nights under 20; NO DAMAGE. Jon T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattyB 2,160 Report post Posted January 23, 2007 24F, no damage. This 8 foot tall plant was dug up earlier this year and has virtually no root ball. I guess this palms lives up to it's hardy reputation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 15 Report post Posted January 28, 2008 One plant, 4' OA height 19f, many hours and nights below freezing No damage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fruitof76 1 Report post Posted August 15, 2010 Had 13 degree temp in January and other nights below 20 F this past winter. No damage to by Butia C. About 4 feet tall or so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fdrc65 21 Report post Posted September 13, 2010 My beautiful Palm in a 50 cm pot and about 150 cm high is dead after -7' C by night and -3' C by day and a lot of snow during the winter... Regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBN 2 Report post Posted September 17, 2010 Hey, I've got a small one 15cm trunk diameter. In our garage the temp gets down on -12,9C° this winter for at least a week. All fonds without one died in the spring and the inner spears gets brown too. Now its still alive and im sure that the butia gonna regenerate in the next summer. This winter i'll protect the palm best regards Andy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moris 1 Report post Posted September 17, 2010 the problem of butia is the high umidity and not the low temperature. The phoenix canariensis is more adatable to humidity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBN 2 Report post Posted September 18, 2010 the problem of butia is the high umidity and not the low temperature. The phoenix canariensis is more adatable to humidity Hey, in Germany we got high moisture even in Summer but Butias growing well here as phoenix C. does (ofc phoenix is faster). But Phoenix dont survive our hard winters which are often below -8C°. Best Butia for countrys or areas with high umidity should be Eriospatha. But even Capitata should grow well if the winters doesnt get under -10C° - 14C° best regards Andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takil-Explorer 33 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Andy, How was last winter for Butias there? Here in the Netherlands lot of spearpull. Cold and wet and heavy frost is not their cup of thea... Alexander Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBN 2 Report post Posted April 17, 2011 hey Alexander, the last winter i pulled some spears aswell. But most of them survived the winter here. This winter on the most of them isnt even any damage by -13C° and a very long winter. best regards Andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin D. 29 Report post Posted June 29, 2011 My butia of five, maybe six feet, survived a week of almost totally freezing temperatures and snow and wind. The coldest it got was eleven or twelve degrees. There was six inches of snow on the ground near it. I wrapped the trunk and put a tarp over it. I then put electric work lights under the tarp. It's foliage was about one third defoliated. And it was planted last fall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAgrown 1 Report post Posted August 6, 2012 I planted 5 pindo palms in the ground last spring (2011). These were planted out in the open, not next to a house or anything. I also did not protect them in any way from the cold. During the 2011-2012 winter our lowest temperature was about 15F-18F one night. We didn't get any snow, just a few flurries one night in February. I got 4 of the palms from a local Lowe's (these were grown at a farm in Florida) and 1 from Georgia. 3 of the palms from Lowe's had spear-pull, the other palm lost all of it's fronds except for the spear (weird ). The 1 from Georgia had no damage at all, and this one was the smallest of them all. The one that lost all of it's fronds except for the spear grew 3 new fronds and then died. The other 4 are healthy and have grown rapidly (I think it's rapid anyways) and I've replaced the dead one. As of today, the fastest growing palm has grown 10 full fronds with an 11th spear coming out. The slowest growing palm has grown 5 full fronds with a 6th spear coming out. I counted each new frond after the spear-pull, which was around March/April 2012. So far everything is looking good . 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CumberlandPlants 33 Report post Posted January 8, 2015 I planted 5 pindo palms in the ground last spring (2011). These were planted out in the open, not next to a house or anything. I also did not protect them in any way from the cold. During the 2011-2012 winter our lowest temperature was about 15F-18F one night. We didn't get any snow, just a few flurries one night in February. I got 4 of the palms from a local Lowe's (these were grown at a farm in Florida) and 1 from Georgia. 3 of the palms from Lowe's had spear-pull, the other palm lost all of it's fronds except for the spear (weird http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/huh.png ). The 1 from Georgia had no damage at all, and this one was the smallest of them all. The one that lost all of it's fronds except for the spear grew 3 new fronds and then died. The other 4 are healthy and have grown rapidly (I think it's rapid anyways) and I've replaced the dead one. As of today, the fastest growing palm has grown 10 full fronds with an 11th spear coming out. The slowest growing palm has grown 5 full fronds with a 6th spear coming out. I counted each new frond after the spear-pull, which was around March/April 2012. So far everything is looking good http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/greenthumb.gif. I am guessing the Butia you bought were blue pot palms? The box stores have or had been carrying blue pot palms which are suppose to be cold hardy varieties. However, these palms are becoming known for being consistently unreliable in USDA zones 8 and down. The blue pot growers of cold hardy palms that supply the box stores are definitely pushing cold hardy palms that they grow. Pushing palms with the wrong kind of fertilizer and possibly hormone treatments greatly decreases their overall cold hardiness. A few other members of this site believe the same. You can see the difference for yourself because you have other Butia that were not grown by the blue pot growers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexasColdHardyPalms 3,230 Report post Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) 15.4, not protection, one year from germination. Edited January 12, 2015 by Dynodaddy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthFlpalmguy 43 Report post Posted March 13, 2015 Two nights in a row of hard frost 17 degrees last year. I have unprotected pindos from seedlings to 2ft clear trunk, thousands. Nothing over a seedling showed any damage at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffinGarland 4 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 In the winter of 2016-17, my Butia capitata, which was about 7-8 years old, and had survived the Feb 2011 freeze, froze and died. In the general area, I see others that died, but many still alive. The coldest temperatures at my house in the 3 coldest winters since 2010: Feb. 2011: 11°; Dec. 2016: 14°, Jan. 2017: 11°; Jan. 2018: 10°. As I said, mine died after 2016-17, and several in the neighborhood died from the even colder temperatures this year, but there are still a few that survived both last winter and this winter here in the chilly outer suburbs of Dallas, TX, zone 8a. The warmest winter here was 2015-2016, when the coldest temperature at my house was 25°, but only only 27° at both D/FW Airport and Dallas Love Field. Zone 9b? Impatiens and begonias stayed evergreen that year. That may have had something to do with my losses, not just the Butia, in the next winter, since so much new growth was not hardened off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Sandham 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2021 Hi, New Butia Capitata owner..8ft tall in pot. Will keep it in pot for 1st year so that I can be happy about where I'm going to position it. Also I have a large enough covered area I can move it to in winter. My question is how often does it need watering if in pot..many conflicting messages on Internet, would prefer a more accurate answer from an owner. I am in UK in the South. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadyDan 322 Report post Posted May 13 Report from 2021/2022 Vancouver Island freeze (late enough now that any delayed damage / spear pull would have showed up). -8.3C was the ultimate low with 3 consecutive days failing to crack 0C. Lots of heavy, wet coastal snow fell before the deep freeze, which may have helped (insulation on the spear / on the fronds). Butia capitata survived just fine. Some minor spotting on the fronds and some burnt tips, but no spear pull and the palm is actively growing again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites