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Phil

Jerod,

That bottom right one is Rhapis multifida. It sold on Saturday, yesterday. I think we still have the other three.

Phil

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SurfCityPalms

Dang, I would have loved that one! The others look like R.excelsa, correct me if I'm wrong, if they are not, what are they? I'm always looking to add to my vari collection!

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Phil

Jerod,

all of the others are variegated varieties of R. excelsa. At one point we had about 15 or 20 types (Hollenberg's collection) but those are long gone. Now we get them from time to time and probably have about 4 varieties available. If Danny sees this, perhaps he can chime in. It's his favorite thing with palms.

Phil

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JD in the OC

Been growing my Christmas palm in 50% shade cloth lately and it pushed a nice new leaf. Had to post a couple pics. I think it does better in half sun or full sun than shade.

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Brucer

Looks like a R. humilis. Amazing plant.

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virtualpalm

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JD, how's that variegated D. spinulosum coming along?

Jody

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Rusty on Pine Is.

Been growing my Christmas palm in 50% shade cloth lately and it pushed a nice new leaf. Had to post a couple pics. I think it does better in half sun or full sun than shade.

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Absolutely beautiful palm, JD.

Rusty

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JD in the OC

Ha, I can see how you noticed that Jody... :winkie:

It's doing fine. Slow growing tho.. probably needs more sun than it's getting. Only grows about 2 leaves per year :(

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Rusty on Pine Is.

JD, dont mean to hijack the thread, but I notice differences in the way the D. spinulosum and the Adonidia manifest the individual variegation......is one chimeral and the other mitochondrial, and if so, how would that affect subsequent fertilization, ie. would you keep soluble N to less than , say 100 ppm? ...or less???

Thanks

Rusty

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virtualpalm

Ha, I can see how you noticed that Jody... :winkie:

It's doing fine. Slow growing tho.. probably needs more sun than it's getting. Only grows about 2 leaves per year :(

That seems like typical growth for normal D. spinulosum of that size. If you ever want to trade it for something, you know how to reach me!

Jody

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caranday

Here a Howea Fosteriana

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JD in the OC

Rusty,

I didn't realize you were an erudite geneticist :) I differentiate them as genetic and viral. Variegated wodveitchia is genetic; the individual plant cells congregate in hybrid offspring creating dual-coloration. These can be fertilized with nitrogen in order to augment a juxtaposition creating green and yellow. Whereas, variegated adonidia and rhapis are a result of a chimeral viral infection and any amount of nitrogen can potentially reduce the contrast between the two colors. However, empirical evidence suggests that climactic conditions can bear an affect on the contrast, mainly with regard to soil and pH. Results differ between variegated plants fertilized in California and Florida. The reason for this has yet to be explained. Viral variegation can be passed on to offspring through seed that inherits the chimeral tissue, whereas varieated species such as wodveitchia manifest a genetic form of variegation in which the parent is typically sterile and will not pass on this trait through typical reproduction. However, I know of one wodveitchia here in FL that has produced viable seed resulting in variegated F2 offspring.

JD

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JD in the OC

Paul, I like cycas revoluta var. aurea! Fertilize the heck out of it and it will always keep those gold tips :)

Caranday, how old is that? Do you know? It's beautiful. Do you grow it outdoors or indoors? I have a tiny one...

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Rusty on Pine Is.

Rusty,

I didn't realize you were an erudite geneticist :) I differentiate them as genetic and viral. Variegated wodveitchia is genetic; the individual plant cells congregate in hybrid offspring creating dual-coloration. These can be fertilized with nitrogen in order to augment a juxtaposition creating green and yellow. Whereas, variegated adonidia and rhapis are a result of a chimeral viral infection and any amount of nitrogen can potentially reduce the contrast between the two colors. However, empirical evidence suggests that climactic conditions can bear an affect on the contrast, mainly with regard to soil and pH. Results differ between variegated plants fertilized in California and Florida. The reason for this has yet to be explained. Viral variegation can be passed on to offspring through seed that inherits the chimeral tissue, whereas varieated species such as wodveitchia manifest a genetic form of variegation in which the parent is typically sterile and will not pass on this trait through typical reproduction. However, I know of one wodveitchia here in FL that has produced viable seed resulting in variegated F2 offspring.

JD

Well, JD, erudition and my name dont seem to go together, no matter how hard i try to imagine it!!!! :lol:

Seriously, thanks a lot for the information.....i think the subject is fascinating....long ago i became acquainted with a parasitic plant, Dodder...i think Cuscuta is the genus.....it is utilizes haustoria to parasitise the host, and if growing on two separate plants can transmit a disease from one host to the other (most often MLO's but also viruses).....i thought it would be an interesting experiment to see if the parasitiod could transmit variegation between plants...there may be inherent obstacles, IE if a viral infestation is geolimited due to tissue differentiation, but it would be an interesting exercise, i think.....i have yet to try it, but i think i would start on other monocots, and save the more rare and valuable palms for later. :)

Thanks again for the information.

Rusty

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caranday

Paul, I like cycas revoluta var. aurea! Fertilize the heck out of it and it will always keep those gold tips :)

Caranday, how old is that? Do you know? It's beautiful. Do you grow it outdoors or indoors? I have a tiny one...

Hi JD

That howea are probably 7 years old, and it grow indoors in a greenhouse.

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JD in the OC

Wow, thats a pretty slow palm. Looks like it enjoys being in a small container. I figured howea would like low humidity... but you say you grow it in your greenhouse?...

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Walter John

Here's my Wodyetia bifurcata just hanging in there.

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caranday

Wow, thats a pretty slow palm. Looks like it enjoys being in a small container. I figured howea would like low humidity... but you say you grow it in your greenhouse?...

JD

yes, howea very slow, one or to years to germinate, and a leaf per year. It grows well in our climate but when small is better in greenhouse.

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dimitris

The only one that survived out of three Adonidia merilii ordered from Thailand ,

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and my precious variegated Cycas revoluta ,

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i ' ve got also two Cycas revoluta var. ''Aurea'' nothing like this but good looking if kept away from direct sunlight so the yellow tips last more before turn brown .

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JD in the OC

good point caranday.

nice sago dimitris, one to be proud of! (can't grow em here because of asian scale)

A Majesty I picked up today in Miami:

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JD in the OC

A flash shot. Variegation is fairly white.

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Bill Austin

Here are two dypsis out of I don't how many seedlings , but every so often one shows up.

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dypsis procera it is interesting that the off shoots do not show any variegation yet

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dypsis paludosa entire leaf this one will be fun to watch

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JD in the OC

Bill,

Wow! Good show! It's rare to get varieg dypsis. Those are nice. About how many seed did you have to sprout? In the 1,000's or 10,000's? Just curious... :D

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pilou

Some variegata I have in the garden...

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Rhapis excelsa variegata

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Rhapis excelsa variegata var ?

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Rhapis excelsa variegata var ?

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Cyrtostachys renda

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pilou

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Licuala grandis

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Areca catechu

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Cocos nucifera dwarf

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Arenga brevipes (seedling)

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avb

I ran across this nice Chamaedorea sp. at the Brasil Biennial in 2010.

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avb

I have this Chambeyronia in my yard that puts out one varigated leaflet about once every 3d or 4th leaf. It's real easy to miss.

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plamboy

This is my dwraf banana it wasnt variegated like this untill it died of last winter it had straight green leafs untill coming back all its suckers are variegated to

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Kokioula

Aloha everyone, this variegated Calyptrocalyx leaf is too nice to not share. Was blessed by this beauty, from sprouting around 100 seeds of C elegans.  Hope you all are very well!

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kurt decker

He he he he he

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krishnaraoji88
16 hours ago, Kokioula said:

Aloha everyone, this variegated Calyptrocalyx leaf is too nice to not share. Was blessed by this beauty, from sprouting around 100 seeds of C elegans.  Hope you all are very well!

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Wow that is amazing!

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Gbarce

My variegated Phoenix sylvestris

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Gbarce

another angle

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Gbarce

Closer look at the leaves

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Brett in Mission Viejo

All beautiful variegated plants. Thanks for sharing. I don't collect variegated plants. But I purchased a Jeff Marcus variety Dypsis Heteromorpha a couple of years ago and it opened a few leafs that look to have a bit of variegation. Not much, but it will still be interesting to see how it develops. 

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Fusca

CIDP

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Cikas
3 hours ago, Gbarce said:

My variegated Phoenix sylvestris

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It is beautiful! 

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