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Chambeyronia Houailou

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Jastin
I would guess it throws a new leaf once every 2 months. It might get faster once the roots are finally satisfied.

WOW thats fast! I thought they only threw 4 a year in Hawaii? Or was that just the macrocarpa?

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Mandrew968

My macrocarpa is that slow or maybe slower. Hookeri is a bit faster than houailou so definitely the fastest, overall.

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BS Man about Palms

VERY nice Andrew!

Jastin, mine grows year round.. un bothered by the weather... OOPS! time to go pull in some plants for the next 4 days!

Its Sundown!

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BS Man about Palms

Which reminds me... I have decided its way more important to me that the palm is still HERE after a cold event than how many fronds a year it throws :)

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sarasota alex

I've read that C. lepidota is a high elevation palm that will probably hate FL sultry nights. Can anyone confirm that?

I have tried them several times over here in palm beach with no success at all.

I'm just catching up to this thread. There is (at least as of a year or so ago) a C. lepidota growing at the Gizella Kopsick Palm Arboretum in St. Pete. It's always looked like it's barely making it, but it's been doing it for years as far as I remember. I also remember talking to Phil about it and he said that had they planted it higher it would've been doing much better.

Also I have 2 regular C. macrocarpas. And one of them is much faster than the other producing an average of 5 leaves per year.

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Mandrew968

Alex--does the faster one have purple hues in the leaflets, where they connect to the rachis, while the other does not? My guess is one(the faster of the two) might be a hybrid with hookeri...

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sarasota alex

Alex--does the faster one have purple hues in the leaflets, where they connect to the rachis, while the other does not? My guess is one(the faster of the two) might be a hybrid with hookeri...

Not sure. Never looked closely at that. Interesting. I will check it out tomorrow. I got it from Ken a little over 2 years ago.

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Mandrew968

New leaf opened a couple weeks back.

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Mandrew968

Man, does this palm grow fast! I think this is as red as I have ever seen her--and she's growing so fast in this heat!

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rick

Wow! 2 leaves in 3 months that is a fast. :greenthumb:

This weather really seems to have sent them into overdrive. Mine opened in the middle of our non-stop rains couple weeks ago so it greened up before I could get any pics. But it already has a 18inch spear shooting on up.

Any ideas on what could cause the variation in red from leaf to leaf? Just throwing the idea our there but from what Ive noticed the longer the spear takes to open the less red it has.

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Mandrew968

Interesting hypothesis... I think this palm likes heat more than any of the Chambeyronia species. I say this beacuse my growing experience with the others is they often slow down in the dead of summer. Hookeri not so much, but houailou seems to speed up in this heat--maybe it is that this palm is from the beach, in New Caledonia and therefore sees considerably more heat than the other species do...

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Mandrew968

I am beyond posting every new leaf, but this one seemed more red than possible. I thought about some of you arguing that this is really a hookeri, but we have all watched this grow up on palmtalk and it is no doubt an Houailou. Love this palm!

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Firepalm

Man that thing is beautiful! Nice work Andrew! Haven't seen a Houailou here in SoCal with that much red, but the leaf structure on yours definitely looks like all the Houailous out here.

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KennyRE317

2 of my Houailous had a little salmon-ish color on the previous frond but was super light and very little, I'm going to keep an eye out on them to see if they continue to give a little more color. like others have said they are the fastest of the other Chambeyronia species and have gotten a solid 3-4 leaves while in their 5gal pots this past year. might be hard to compare the speed though since my other Chambeyronia were all planted within this last year and may have not really re-established itself until recently but my 15gal watermelons do grow pretty consistently

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Mandrew968

I just so happened to look out the window and BAM! Glad I did--almost missed it. This palm has slowed for our winter but is fattening up.

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Mandrew968

I was actually lucky to get a "two for one"--my Ptychosperma burretiana also has gone off; Most of my Ptychosperma(I have a lot of different species) are super fast and become adults before you know it! If you all have been checking out the progress of my photos, you can see how thick everything is getting--much less uniform and perfect, but much more rainforest-like and jungle style. I am enjoying the process...

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KennyRE317

i have 2 in the ground now and one is in full all day sun. they've only been planted about 5-8 months so we'll see how they do.

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Mandrew968

My wife and I were enjoying our first cup of coffee when she noticed with delight. Always nice when palms make us smile!

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Briank

Here are my 3 I picked up 2 months ago.. Have yet to find spot for them! They are Sun Grown so that helps, But have not decided were to put them!

 

I have 1 5GA and 2 1GA.

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Mandrew968

Amazing to see the progression of this palm. 

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Mandrew968

My garden is near completely filled out in the front. This palm adds so much and is a breeze to grow; I probably don't have he place in the absolutel best position, but she is still performing.

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Mandrew968

Last post of this one for now.

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Cindy Adair

Thanks for these photos Andrew. Mine looks more like Briank's size still.

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Pedro 65

Andrew, thats the largest Houilou Ive seen here on PT and never seen 1 in the flesh larger :greenthumb:

I ve only 2 a tad larger than Brians which both just opened a new Pinnate leaf, 1 is in full sun and has now adapded after  2 yrs. 

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Tyrone

I really love this species. I have one that I germinated from RPS doing well that needs planting. Gotta get more though. Lots more.

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PalmatierMeg

Here is the Houailou that inspired my original post. It started out growing like a ball of fire but has since slowed down. Takes its time but is happy nonetheless. Unlike Andrew's palms, which have intensely red new leaves, this plant's leaves open salmon/coral pink, then slowly fade. It originally came from Ellis Brown at Redland Nursery. They are hard to find - Floribunda is the most reliable source.

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Pedro 65
5 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

Here is the Houailou that inspired my original post. It started out growing like a ball of fire but has since slowed down. Takes its time but is happy nonetheless. Unlike Andrew's palms, which have intensely red new leaves, this plant's leaves open salmon/coral pink, then slowly fade. It originally came from Ellis Brown at Redland Nursery. They are hard to find - Floribunda is the most reliable source.

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Meg, I went back to the start of this thread, youve had great growth in the  last 5  yrs, do you think its slowed down coz its looking for more  sunlight? Pete

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BS Man about Palms

Funny I was just noticing how large mine was tonight... I should post a pic, nice thread bump.. Mine has a good 2' of trunk or more.... but not a hint of red in mine. I wonder if you have some sort of Hybrid Andrew? More red than any I have ever seen!

 

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gtsteve

This is the first leaf to show colour, after the first six green ones.

For us it is only one to two leaves a year.

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PalmatierMeg
6 hours ago, gtsteve said:

This is the first leaf to show colour, after the first six green ones.

For us it is only one to two leaves a year.

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Steve, mine's new leaves are about that color.

Pete, it does get midday into afternoon sun. I had to be careful when I planted it small - our sun can burn through seedling leaves. It did to my 6 C. macrocarpa until they grew larger

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BS Man about Palms

Well, I guess I exaggerated a bit... the trunk appears to be a bit over 1 foot... But very happy!.  (Still not a hint of pink or red.. I'd like one of that version too... ;-)

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5 gal pot to right for scale... NOT a 1 gal pot

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Mandrew968

I laughed out loud with your posts guys! Yes, not an easy find, Meg, but I have one a bit smaller than yours in a pot at the nursery. They are not as fast as a hookeri but way faster than my watermelon. Remember, mine was the peach petiole version where Meg's was the lime colored one. Maybe mine grows up to have that super nice rose color...

BS Man, nice palm!! About the size of mine.

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Mandrew968

Here is the base of mine.

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Tracy
On 8/24/2016, 9:16:43, BS Man about Palms said:

Still not a hint of pink or red.

Mine just  opened up a new frond a couple of weeks ago, and for the first time I noted a "hint" of blush.  Mine is much smaller and quite slow.  Only 1 new leaf this summer and 1 last summer.  Perhaps it is still getting acclimated, as its only been in the ground a couple of years from a 7 gallon pot that I had it in before.20160829-104A4157.thumb.jpg.6ec77f0c733c

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Mandrew968

I am guessing that this palm needs heat and humidity to open up rose colored.

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Mandrew968

Here is an update from yesterday. I still get a kick out of the vibrant color this palm produces! 

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DoomsDave
13 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

Here is an update from yesterday. I still get a kick out of the vibrant color this palm produces! 

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OW!

 

that smarts!

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BS Man about Palms
On 3/21/2013, 5:55:16, Mandrew968 said:

Alex--does the faster one have purple hues in the leaflets, where they connect to the rachis, while the other does not? My guess is one(the faster of the two) might be a hybrid with hookeri...

I really think that is the case... fast as can be with that brilliant red... gotta be a hybrid.. :) 

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Mandrew968
5 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

I really think that is the case... fast as can be with that brilliant red... gotta be a hybrid.. :) 

Sorry, but no--not a hybrid. 

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