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DoomsDave

I have noticed the more shade they are in, the longer they will stay entire leaf..

A certain So-Cal Palm grower (not me) has some specimens that are entire-leafed after quite a number of years. Six, I think.

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Palmlover

Here is mine I bought from Floribunda at the beginning of the year in a 4" container. I planted it right away and it took off. The trunk got super fat. I just took this photo a few minutes ago.

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Mandrew968

Update. I finally planted her--has anyone noticed two types of houailous? Mine has peach colored petioles, but most are lemon-lime... anyway, a new leaf and a real stable base on her. :)

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PalmatierMeg

Today I took these photos of the one I planted last year. It took lows to about 34-35 unprotected without a single spot. What a fabulous palm!

Chambeyronia Houailou, 2/16/12

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palmislandRandy

Once they start trunking mine added about 5 new fronds in the past year. I have two about the same size. They're much faster than any of my other Chambeyronias. These pics were taken yesterday.

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Bencassa

Once they start trunking mine added about 5 new fronds in the past year. I have two about the same size. They're much faster than any of my other Chambeyronias. These pics were taken yesterday.

The pic on the right is a hookeri yeah?

Doesnt look like any houailou I've seen.

Will post a pic of mine shortly

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Mandrew968

I'm gonna bring this up again, has anyone else noticed two different colored houailous? Meg's has the lemon-lime colored petioles and mine has the peach colored petioles. I have seen a few more peach colored ones at other nurseries. Does anyone have any thoughts on this difference in color?

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Mandrew968

Once they start trunking mine added about 5 new fronds in the past year. I have two about the same size. They're much faster than any of my other Chambeyronias. These pics were taken yesterday.

The pic on the right is a hookeri yeah?

Doesnt look like any houailou I've seen.

Will post a pic of mine shortly

Dean mentioned that there is an upright one and another that lets the leaves fall much lower on the plant. The reason I would say both Randy's palms are houailou is there is no purple tinge in any of the plant--in fact, houailou often exibits a bluish tint to the leaf that melds in with the yellow. That's houailou, for sure :)

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Beach palm

The one on the left is hard to tell from the photo. I think it is hookeri. The one on the right is definitely not Houailou. Houailou have at best pink new leaves. They are never that red.

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Mandrew968

The one on the left is hard to tell from the photo. I think it is hookeri. The one on the right is definitely not Houailou. Houailou have at best pink new leaves. They are never that red.

I must repectfully disagree. I believe they are both houailous... Randy that is super red for an houailou--it would be kinda weak for a hookeri.

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palmislandRandy

Once they start trunking mine added about 5 new fronds in the past year. I have two about the same size. They're much faster than any of my other Chambeyronias. These pics were taken yesterday.

The pic on the right is a hookeri yeah?

Doesnt look like any houailou I've seen.

Will post a pic of mine shortly

They are both the exactly the same. Here is an older pic of a new C houailou leaf. The new leaves are more of a salmon color & more recurved. The hookeri's new leaf is more of a deep maroon color.

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palmislandRandy

Here is an example. The C houailou on the left & C hookeri on the right. :)

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LJG

Petiole color, crownshaft color, and new leaf color doesn't really define the two IMHO. In some cases each can exhibit somewhat similar characteristics. One thing they don't share is the fact Hookeri holds its leaflets off the rachis at around 90 degrees and Houailou is always at about a 45.

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palmislandRandy

Petiole color, crownshaft color, and new leaf color doesn't really define the two. In some cases each can exhibit similar characteristics. One thing they don't share is the fact Hookeri holds its leaflets off the rachis at around 90 degrees and Houailou is always at about a 45.

Ahhhhh. Thanks Len!

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Moose

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Here is my Chambeyronia macrocarpa. I've been waiting for months for this spear leaf to open. Thought it would do its thing around Christmas to add to the festivities. Noticed it starting to open last night so I snapped these photos this am at first light. It's overall height is @ 9 ft with 2 ft of trunk.

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Beach palm

I think this is the coloring difference you are asking about. One has a greenstem and base while the other has green. Both are Houailou that came in the same seed package.

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Beach palm

Here is a picture of the base.

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DoomsDave

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Here is my Chambeyronia macrocarpa. I've been waiting for months for this spear leaf to open. Thought it would do its thing around Christmas to add to the festivities. Noticed it starting to open last night so I snapped these photos this am at first light. It's overall height is @ 9 ft with 2 ft of trunk.

whoa!

And the Rockettes with bed hair, steak medium rare, like the color of that new spare, er, spear. :drool::blink:

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Moose

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Don't mean to hijack this thread. I just can't remember my Chambeyronia macrocarpa with such a brillantly red leaf after three days.

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PalmatierMeg

Here is a picture of the base.

Mine has a green stem like yours on the right. But I'd love to have a peach-stemmed palm to go with it.

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Mandrew968

Thanks Beach palm--That's exactly what I'm talking about... So I guess there are just two kinds of Houailou! Glad I have the peach one :)

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BS Man about Palms

Heres an update of mine.. kinda wish it was the pink version... But I'm still happy!

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Mandrew968

I see that hint of blue in there--looking good!

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LJG

Here is a picture of the base.

I have never seen a pinkish colored one before. It will be interesting to see if they keep the color differences as they grow.

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Mandrew968

Here is a picture of the base.

I have never seen a pinkish colored one before. It will be interesting to see if they keep the color differences as they grow.

I will keep us updated :)

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LJG

Here is a picture of the base.

I have never seen a pinkish colored one before. It will be interesting to see if they keep the color differences as they grow.

I will keep us updated :)

Good. Plus I wonder if growth rate will be the same. My two that open green leaves grow as fast as Macrocarpas for me. My one I got from FL that opens a reddish leaf is painfully slow. I get a leaf a year if lucky.

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Mandrew968

Here is a picture of the base.

I have never seen a pinkish colored one before. It will be interesting to see if they keep the color differences as they grow.

I will keep us updated :)

Good. Plus I wonder if growth rate will be the same. My two that open green leaves grow as fast as Macrocarpas for me. My one I got from FL that opens a reddish leaf is painfully slow. I get a leaf a year if lucky.

I have all the Chambeyronias save lepidota and my houailou is fastest, BY FAR. Regular macrocarpa is so slow(maybe two leaves a year), I'm beginning to think it's an Actinokentia! They are all about the same size(hookeri is the biggest and faster than regular macrocarpa). I have been posting the speed of my houailou on this thread and you can all see how fast she is!

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PalmatierMeg

I've read that C. lepidota is a high elevation palm that will probably hate FL sultry nights. Can anyone confirm that?

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Beach palm

I've read that C. lepidota is a high elevation palm that will probably hate FL sultry nights. Can anyone confirm that?

I have tried them several times over here in palm beach with no success at all.

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Mandrew968

I can't even grow a Ptychococcus, so I wouldn't try a Chambeyronia lepidota...

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Moose

Meg,

Threads like these are doing nothing for my illness laugh.gif Great looking palm though :drool:

Laura

LOL :lol:

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Mandrew968

This is the first pinnate leaf on my Chambeyronia houailou--with a hint of pink.

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Mandrew968

It started to open this morning and this is the most color I have gotten so far--very happy to get such color from this palm.

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BS Man about Palms

Luving the red there Andrew.. NICE.

Mine is growing like the weeds around it.. (I think to keep the sun) :P Thats a full size work van next to it for size reference.

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When I planted it in front of my Watermelon Macro, the watermelon was almost twice its size.. its not even close, I think the houailou grows twice the speed.

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PalmatierMeg

This afternoon I took this photo of my C. Houailou. Going strong.

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Mandrew968

Just another update on my Chambeyronia sp. houailou. It seems to be developing more color with each new leaf...

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NApalm

Nice!

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palmislandRandy

Nice Andrew. That red actually means go & it's really going to take off now. :)

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Jastin

Nice! How many leaves do you get a year? Mine is in the ground from a 4" FB in full sun surrounded by concrete. Pushing strong, not the greenest yet though- probably the old Hawaii leaves and the fact that I threw it in full sun

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Mandrew968

I would guess it throws a new leaf once every 2 months. It might get faster once the roots are finally satisfied.

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