Ntheastpalms 11 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Nice palms BS Man & for what its worth I like your shoes . I have a couple of New Cal natives that I thought needed posting Kentiopsis pyriformis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia. I'm sure there might be a few errors on this thread, Thanks for any updated corrections. Looking great Matt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ntheastpalms 11 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Burretiokentia dumassii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ntheastpalms 11 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Burretiokentia veilardii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ntheastpalms 11 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks Bill Now for some little ones still in their pots Chambeyronia sp houliou, Basselinia gracilis highland form?? & Basselinia glabrata. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cindy Adair 2,750 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Wonderful collection! I'm trying out a number of these and I love to see what they should look like when they grow a bit more, as well as what they might be in a couple of decades. Thanks so much for posting these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike in Nelson 6 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia. Richnorm, are you growing any New Cal palms up your way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chakoro 2 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Ay everyone, Okay Bill, if night photos are in, then here is my Basselinia gracilis - or is it a Eriostachys? Thanks for the New Cal thread, particularly the Cyphosperma balanse. Love your work, Craig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Craig- I see it as a Eriostachys, but either way, the larger leaves mean it has a decent chance! Good going! Cindy- My pleasure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yachtingone 106 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Bill, Your palms look great:greenthumb: I have a bad case of zone envy now:badday: Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edric 626 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Very interesting Bill, None of the New Cal. palms go plumose? thanks, Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richnorm 474 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia. Richnorm, are you growing any New Cal palms up your way? Hi Mike, I have all the Chambeyronias and a handful or so of the other species. All NewCal species will probably grow here but are largely unavailable. If you can get seed and it is not prohibited for importation you then face very low germination rates (often 0%) and then there's the difficulty of keeping the seedlings alive until they are robust enough to handle winter outside. For example, I got 50/50 Basselinia gracilis to germinate but am now down to a handful of plants. They died outside in winter and died from shock if I brought them inside! Unfortunately you need better growing skills and facilities than I am currently able to provide but I keep trying. The Burretiokentias and Cyphophoenix are easier but you need to buy seed in lots of 100 due to very poor germination. Kentiopsis oliviformis and Chambeyronia houailou have the highest heat requirements. All are very slow! I think the best bet is to give seed to a professional grower with a double skinned plastic house in return for a plant a few years down the line. cheers Richard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realarch 4,410 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Wow Bill, nice collection! The Kentiopsis seem to really like your place. Craig, you sure that Basselinia isn't in Hawaii? It's doing the hula. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter John 215 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 Great palms everyone, this was my pick at Col's place, his Chambeyronia houliou. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeaumontTropics 47 Report post Posted January 25, 2011 Now on to the 4 horseman of the Kentiopsis! Kentiopsis pyriformis. (I have just decided to go get "extra" pics of these!!) stand by.. BS, Looking money bud, absolute money! These palms are crazy exotic! Oh how I yearn for global warming so I can grow these palms one day too! Very solid New Cal collection Bill! You tha man! -eric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmislandRandy 280 Report post Posted January 25, 2011 Bill, Your New Cals rock. The houliou has a salmon colored new leaf. Is it just a form of Chambeyronia macrocarpa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted January 25, 2011 Ed, not really. I would think the closest would be some of the Basselinia's might "try"... Tim, Wal and Eric- THANKS Its a constant toss-up whether I like the New Cal or the Madagascar palms better... Probably New Cal in Winter and Madagascar in summer.. Randy- Thanks. Plus, not all of the houliou's come out red. maybe less than 15%. But some say, or officially I understand it is just a"form", like hookeri..of macrocarpa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted January 31, 2011 Added a basselinia glabrata to the collection Saturday and planted on Sunday. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjff 62 Report post Posted January 31, 2011 Added a basselinia glabrata to the collection Saturday and planted on Sunday. Bought and planted the next day? Are you sure you're feeling alright? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Austin 1,018 Report post Posted January 31, 2011 Very nice looking N.C. palms Bill, just but my K. magnifica two weeks ago. I am just getting around yo N.C palns. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koch 6 Report post Posted January 31, 2011 Now I'm going to do the cheesy trick of one palm per post so the collection looks more impressive! Basselinia pancheri. Do you have seeds or seedlings of this palm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Martin- I'm trying to only get palms that I have an idea where I will plant... Bill- you'll love the New Cal stuff... but somewhat slow even over there! Sorry Koch- no spares, but if you beat the bushes, you can maybe locate them.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmtreesforpleasure 392 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Nice collection Bill Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun? regards colin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Nice collection Bill Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun? regards colin I stumbled on that secret a couple years back Colin... All the ones around here that people gave at least a few hours sun are growing like rockets!! the shaded ones just languish,... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tassie_Troy1971 1,062 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 WOW - great thread BS MAN ! quite a collection - now we need a big palmtalk working bee BBQ to landscape the backyard so those beauties can be planted . Chambeyronia lepidota Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJG 1,166 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Nice collection Bill Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun? regards colin I stumbled on that secret a couple years back Colin... All the ones around here that people gave at least a few hours sun are growing like rockets!! the shaded ones just languish,... And when Bill means growing like rockets he means 1 - 2 leaves per year. This is still a slow palm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 2 is still better than 1 !!! How many leaves a year do you think your oliviformis put out? Oh yeah Troy, Thanks and we'll organise that when you are here next.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJG 1,166 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 2 is still better than 1 !!! How many leaves a year do you think your oliviformis put out? Oh yeah Troy, Thanks and we'll organise that when you are here next.... It is easily the fastest of the four. Each of my three do 4 leaves a year like clock work. My Pyriformis does 3 but they were just planted so this year will be a better judge. My two Magnificas are each 1.5 leaves a year. Last year I got one leaf. This year will be two since the new spear is about 3/4 ready from opening already. Same thing happened two years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gtlevine 310 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 My Piersoniorum gets 2 to 2.5, same with Pyraformus. I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex-v 21 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 My Piersoniorum gets 2 to 2.5, same with Pyraformus. I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year.. Says you. Post a pic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 So- I looked all over, Iand I can't find a pic of one of the rare ones in So Cal in the ground! Pogobob has said I can post, yet I have no "planted pic".....ROAD TRIP!! But here is Bobs Cyphokentia macrostacyha prior to planting, until such time as I arrive later... Still waiting for Clinosperma posting OK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon. PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Then picked up a Burretiokentia viellardii for future planting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJG 1,166 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon. PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! Is this the one you grew in the terrarium? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shon 20 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 I'm touching wood for you right now Bill! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon. PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! Is this the one you grew in the terrarium? Yes, its been in the greenhouse for several months now.. Shon- make sure it has some splinters visible please... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kostas 154 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Awesome palms you got there Bill!!!!!!! Your Kentiopsis magnifica is my favorite of all! Do you maybe know the age of your Actinokentia divaricata,Cyphoenix alba and Cyphosperma balansae? What position would you choose for planting out a small Cyphosperma balansae and what protection would you give? I get below 0C temperatures but i also have tree sheltered positions which keep frost off and temperatures higher. How would you acclimate it to more sun? So far,i have 6 Cyphophoenix alba,10 Actinokentia divaricata,1 Cyphosperma balansae,4 Kentiopsis oliviformis and 1 REAL Kentiopsis magnifica. All are babies though,most about 1 and a half to 2 years old with the Kentiopsis magnifica only a few months old and the Cyphosperma of unknown age but about 3 or more years old. Its outgrowing its plastic cup. I wish you the best of luck with your Cyphokentia cerifera!!!!! Thank you very much in advance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,337 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Thanks Kostas. I should have looked at my forecast closer... high 30'sF predicted overnight the next week (2C?) Anyway, the thing I have been finding is at least "coastally" most of the new Cal palms will take more sun than folks think and in fact I think it really helps them! If you have some humidity, a few to several hours of sun a day is good. If you are on the drier side, I would go with "bright area" if you can.. The 3 ages you asked are probably 4 years or less and the Actino's maybe 5-6 years.. Nice start there, I would strongly suggest the Cyphophoenix's... very good growers.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
