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Ntheastpalms

Nice palms BS Man & for what its worth I like your shoes :mrlooney: .

I have a couple of New Cal natives that I thought needed posting

Kentiopsis pyriformis

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BS Man about Palms

Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia.

I'm sure there might be a few errors on this thread, Thanks for any updated corrections.

Looking great Matt!

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Ntheastpalms

Burretiokentia dumassii

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Ntheastpalms

Burretiokentia veilardii

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Ntheastpalms

Thanks Bill

Now for some little ones still in their pots

Chambeyronia sp houliou, Basselinia gracilis highland form?? & Basselinia glabrata.

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Cindy Adair

Wonderful collection! I'm trying out a number of these and I love to see what they should look like when they grow a bit more, as well as what they might be in a couple of decades. Thanks so much for posting these.

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Mike in Nelson

Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia.

Richnorm, are you growing any New Cal palms up your way?

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chakoro

Ay everyone,

Okay Bill, if night photos are in, then here is my Basselinia gracilis - or is it a Eriostachys? Thanks for the New Cal thread, particularly the Cyphosperma balanse.

Love your work,

Craig :drool:

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BS Man about Palms

Craig-

I see it as a Eriostachys, but either way, the larger leaves mean it has a decent chance! Good going!

Cindy- My pleasure!

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yachtingone

Bill,

Your palms look great:greenthumb:

I have a bad case of zone envy now:badday:

Randy

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edric

Very interesting Bill, None of the New Cal. palms go plumose? thanks, Ed

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richnorm

Not wishing to be a smart arse but isn't it B. eriostachys rather than eurostachys? Moratia got lumped into Cyphokentia.

Richnorm, are you growing any New Cal palms up your way?

Hi Mike,

I have all the Chambeyronias and a handful or so of the other species. All NewCal species will probably grow here but are largely unavailable. If you can get seed and it is not prohibited for importation you then face very low germination rates (often 0%) and then there's the difficulty of keeping the seedlings alive until they are robust enough to handle winter outside. For example, I got 50/50 Basselinia gracilis to germinate but am now down to a handful of plants. They died outside in winter and died from shock if I brought them inside! Unfortunately you need better growing skills and facilities than I am currently able to provide but I keep trying. The Burretiokentias and Cyphophoenix are easier but you need to buy seed in lots of 100 due to very poor germination. Kentiopsis oliviformis and Chambeyronia houailou have the highest heat requirements. All are very slow! I think the best bet is to give seed to a professional grower with a double skinned plastic house in return for a plant a few years down the line.

cheers

Richard

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realarch

Wow Bill, nice collection! The Kentiopsis seem to really like your place. Craig, you sure that Basselinia isn't in Hawaii? It's doing the hula.

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Walter John

Great palms everyone, this was my pick at Col's place, his Chambeyronia houliou.

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BeaumontTropics

Now on to the 4 horseman of the Kentiopsis!

Kentiopsis pyriformis.

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(I have just decided to go get "extra" pics of these!!) :) stand by..

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BS,

Looking money bud, absolute money! These palms are crazy exotic! Oh how I yearn for global warming so I can grow these palms one day too! Very solid New Cal collection Bill! You tha man!

-eric

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palmislandRandy

Bill, Your New Cals rock. The houliou has a salmon colored new leaf. Is it just a form of Chambeyronia macrocarpa?

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BS Man about Palms

Ed, not really. I would think the closest would be some of the Basselinia's might "try"...

Tim, Wal and Eric- THANKS Its a constant toss-up whether I like the New Cal or the Madagascar palms better... Probably New Cal in Winter and Madagascar in summer..

Randy- Thanks. Plus, not all of the houliou's come out red. maybe less than 15%. But some say, or officially I understand it is just a"form", like hookeri..of macrocarpa.

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BS Man about Palms

Added a basselinia glabrata to the collection Saturday and planted on Sunday.

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mjff

Added a basselinia glabrata to the collection Saturday and planted on Sunday.

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Bought and planted the next day? Are you sure you're feeling alright? :unsure:

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Bill Austin

Very nice looking N.C. palms Bill, just but my K. magnifica two weeks ago. I am just getting around yo N.C palns.

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koch

Now I'm going to do the cheesy trick of one palm per post so the collection looks more impressive! :lol:

Basselinia pancheri.

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Do you have seeds or seedlings of this palm?

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BS Man about Palms

Martin- I'm trying to only get palms that I have an idea where I will plant...

Bill- you'll love the New Cal stuff... but somewhat slow even over there!

Sorry Koch- no spares, but if you beat the bushes, you can maybe locate them..

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palmtreesforpleasure

Nice collection Bill

Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun?

regards

colin

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BS Man about Palms

Nice collection Bill

Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun?

regards

colin

I stumbled on that secret a couple years back Colin... All the ones around here that people gave at least a few hours sun are growing like rockets!! the shaded ones just languish,...

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Tassie_Troy1971

WOW - great thread BS MAN ! quite a collection - now we need a big palmtalk working bee BBQ to landscape the backyard so those beauties can be planted .

Chambeyronia lepidota :drool:

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LJG

Nice collection Bill

Kentiopsis magnifica is slow for me, however i have been growing them in shade. Di you suggest they need full sun?

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colin

I stumbled on that secret a couple years back Colin... All the ones around here that people gave at least a few hours sun are growing like rockets!! the shaded ones just languish,...

And when Bill means growing like rockets he means 1 - 2 leaves per year. This is still a slow palm.

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BS Man about Palms

2 is still better than 1 !!!:D

How many leaves a year do you think your oliviformis put out?

Oh yeah Troy, Thanks and we'll organise that when you are here next.... :)

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LJG

2 is still better than 1 !!!:D

How many leaves a year do you think your oliviformis put out?

Oh yeah Troy, Thanks and we'll organise that when you are here next.... :)

It is easily the fastest of the four. Each of my three do 4 leaves a year like clock work. My Pyriformis does 3 but they were just planted so this year will be a better judge. My two Magnificas are each 1.5 leaves a year. Last year I got one leaf. This year will be two since the new spear is about 3/4 ready from opening already. Same thing happened two years ago.

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BS Man about Palms

I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year..

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Gtlevine

My Piersoniorum gets 2 to 2.5, same with Pyraformus.

I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year..

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BS Man about Palms

My Piersoniorum gets 2 to 2.5, same with Pyraformus.

I think if my pyriformis and oliviformis had more sun they would do 3. The piersoniorum has the most sun, and is newer, but the old one was maybe 1.25-1.50 leaves per year..

Says you. Post a pic. :P

:D

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BS Man about Palms

So- I looked all over, Iand I can't find a pic of one of the rare ones in So Cal in the ground! Pogobob has said I can post, yet I have no "planted pic".....ROAD TRIP!! :D

But here is Bobs Cyphokentia macrostacyha prior to planting, until such time as I arrive later... :)

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Still waiting for Clinosperma posting OK.

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BS Man about Palms

So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon.

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PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! :D

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Then picked up a Burretiokentia viellardii for future planting...

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LJG

So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon.

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PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! :D

Is this the one you grew in the terrarium?

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Shon

I'm touching wood for you right now Bill!

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BS Man about Palms

So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon.

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PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! :D

Is this the one you grew in the terrarium?

Yes, its been in the greenhouse for several months now..

Shon- make sure it has some splinters visible please... :huh:

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Kostas

Awesome palms you got there Bill!!!!!!!drool.gif

Your Kentiopsis magnifica is my favorite of all! Do you maybe know the age of your Actinokentia divaricata,Cyphoenix alba and Cyphosperma balansae?

What position would you choose for planting out a small Cyphosperma balansae and what protection would you give? I get below 0C temperatures but i also have tree sheltered positions which keep frost off and temperatures higher. How would you acclimate it to more sun?

So far,i have 6 Cyphophoenix alba,10 Actinokentia divaricata,1 Cyphosperma balansae,4 Kentiopsis oliviformis and 1 REAL Kentiopsis magnifica. All are babies though,most about 1 and a half to 2 years old with the Kentiopsis magnifica only a few months old and the Cyphosperma of unknown age but about 3 or more years old. Its outgrowing its plastic cup.

I wish you the best of luck with your Cyphokentia cerifera!!!!!smilie.gif

Thank you very much in advance! smilie.gif

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BS Man about Palms

Thanks Kostas.

I should have looked at my forecast closer... high 30'sF predicted overnight the next week (2C?) Anyway, the thing I have been finding is at least "coastally" most of the new Cal palms will take more sun than folks think and in fact I think it really helps them! If you have some humidity, a few to several hours of sun a day is good. If you are on the drier side, I would go with "bright area" if you can..

The 3 ages you asked are probably 4 years or less and the Actino's maybe 5-6 years..

Nice start there, I would strongly suggest the Cyphophoenix's... very good growers..

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