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BS Man about Palms

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Thank you very much for your reply Bill! smilie.gif

Humidity is high in Pyrgos most of the time so some sun should be ok from what you say. I planted a 2 leaf Chambeyronia macrocarpa(Hookerii) in the ground in part day sun the past summer and it didnt burn at all although those leafs were grown indoors without any sun! That totally amazed me but it got defoliated from December's sudden frostsad.gif The spear is all green though and the leaf damage seems only superficial,on the upper surface of the leafs. Still,that effectively ruins the leafs...Hopefully it will recover...

Only about 4 years old???Thats great!!!!drool.gifHopefully i will see my seedlings starting to power this year! Your Actinokentia doesnt seems bigger than the rest so i guess its slower. My Actinokentia divaricata seedlings are growing their first leafs fast though!!!

Is your small Cyphosperma 4 year old or less or your large one(i am guess the smaller)? Mine might not have been 3 years old when bought then,it might have been only 1-2years old.

Thank you! It seems i forgot to mention my 9 Chambeyronia macrocarpa(Hookerii) which are growing fast and beautifully! They are only a year old and on their 4th leaf!!! Following my previous post,i checked out my Kentiopsis magnifica seeds and to my delight,i found 2 more germinators!!! These are 2 year old seeds and just a few months back did the first one germinate blink.gif

Cyphophoenix alba is one of my favorite New Caledonian palms so its great to hear it should be a good grower! When not kept too wet,mine grow problem free and produce new leafs at a good pace! It took me 2 seedlings though to find out what exactly they like and dont like...They have already developed the brown tomentum on their small crownshafts!

I look forward to being able to ground plant this beauty! They are so small(10-15cm) right now and have so thin leaflets that i am afraid to try any in the ground. Would you try it at that size or are they too delicate?

About the Lemurophoenix,i tend to categorize it along with the New Cal palms as well as they have so similar needs! I am growing mine just like my Chambeyronia and they all do well together! Same soil mix,same watering schedule,same likings!

''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it''

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So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon.

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PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! :D

You have my prayers Bill. Have'nt made up my mind whether you're a stud or a fool. :mrlooney:

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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So, Planted one this afternoon. Since several have reported problems growing them in the greenhouse, and Gary L. has had luck with his outside at a tiny stage, I opted to plant my Moratia cerifera this afternoon.

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PLEASE wish me luck, prayers or touch wood. I'll accept all! :D

Is that planted in one of those gopher baskets they sell online? I went to the diggers website and wanted to buy some becaue making my own sucks and seems to cut up my hands, but I hesitated and wasn't sure which size to buy. Seems like you should plant everything in one of the 15 gal baskets, which size do you use and how do you like them?

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First- Even with Rich's correction and now Kostas' I should say I planted my CYPHOKENTIA cerifera... :)

Yes Kostas, the small balansae is under 4 years.. I have to guess a bit as most came from Floribunda originally and things grow super fast there..so its an approximation on my part.

Also, on the C. alba, I didn't mention it, but it was all but a bare root planting... I had found a good sized on locally from JM and I thought it had been there a while as it was a pretty big 1 gal palm.. I went to plant it and pull it out of the pot and found it had a really good light mix with it, but probably had not been in it more than a couple months...most of the soil fell away. It has never looked back and is growing relatively fast considering how small it was.. I shaded it a bit due to its size, but some bright light or a few hours of sun would be fine now... may do it yet.

Bret- I'm sure that will become evident as the years go by... :huh:

Garth- I have only picked up the 5 gal size... any larger and I will probably go the box route...but thats just me. But Gary never sees any palms here because so many are "unplanted"... :lol:

PS- stay tuned... my C. houliou has opened its leaf, I'll post a pic in a few days or so... no pink or red, just slowly goes blue...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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So. Lagging a bit on the update. The leaf is taking its sweet time turning blue, So I'll post it anyway...

Chambeyronia houliou

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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But I did get up to Bobs yesterday and snapped a pic of his Cyphokentia macrostacyha in the ground... Getting bigger, thats for sure..

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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But if you look close you can see a spear coming up on the Cyphokentia cerifera! :greenthumb:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Nice, as always Bill! Aside from being difficult to come by & slow to grow, are the Cyphokentias difficult in SoCal?

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Nice, as always Bill! Aside from being difficult to come by & slow to grow, are the Cyphokentias difficult in SoCal?

Bret

I would venture most New Cal palms are a good grade happier on the coastal area than inland, thats all..... And as you mentioned, GETTING one.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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So. Lagging a bit on the update. The leaf is taking its sweet time turning blue, So I'll post it anyway...

Chambeyronia houliou

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That houliou is getting big! Does it open with any color?

Braden de Jong

 

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No...but it does get a little powdery blue eventually though. I have a small one that gets a little pink..

(free shot- haha)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Here's the only houliou I have that opens with any color. I have another about the same size & it's like Bill's, with only a slight pink hue.

Randy

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

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Randy, if all of them opened like that, you should only NEED one! :lol:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I figured I would add these here. Anyone know what this? It is my first ring of trunk on my Kentiopsis magnifica. Sweet! :)

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Great stuff.

I think a few of these New Caledonians might make it way up here if they're in the right spot (obviously not looking anywhere near as good as Bills) .

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WOW! Kudos to Len! Len, Jeff and I have a "contest" kinda going as to who has the biggest magnifica in So Cal... I have to throw in my entry in!!! :)

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I WOULD have had trunk I think if I was brave enough to pull the old leaf base.... But I just looked and I see the tiniest amount of the pink powder in there, so I'm just WAITIN!

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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BUT. If it means we keep getting pix from Len of his cool garden... I concede the win!! :lol:

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Oh yeah, to the original person that said they "are like a king palm.." I'm not seeing that? :blink:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Great looking stuff Bill and Len. This is stuff we just don't see here.

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and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Len's looks like a Gaussia maya. :)

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Len's looks like a Gaussia maya. :)

That "Guassia" just got word it has a terminanal disease and is being ripped out soon. :)

Want my Psuedophoenix next to my pool? Thing needs more heat since it is one from the islands.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Is that really a Gaussia maya in that pic? I was just joking. Dang I'm good.

You wanna give me another Pseudophoenix to kill? OK> I've got an Orania full of mites with your name on it. Two can play at this game.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Seriously. It struggles here. You can have it. Gary did not want to dig it as I offered it to him.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Are you offering me a Pseudophoenix or a Gaussia. Or are you offering me a Pseudophoenix and when I get there it'll actually be a Gaussia?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Hi heres some fresh shots of New Caledonian Palms, Pics only, no time to write. Will write captions 2nt Pete

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A few more to Follow

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Len, Jeff and I have a "contest" kinda going as to who has the biggest magnifica in So Cal.

We do?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Will write captions 2nt sorry

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Aye Pedro, my head is spinning dont stop now!Although captions would be nice.....love the crownshaft on the bas gracillis :) Craig.

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Len, Jeff and I have a "contest" kinda going as to who has the biggest magnifica in So Cal.

We do?

I win. Give me something. And not any pink rot either.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Hi heres the captions for my pics 1 = the Very RARE Campecarpus Fulcitus

2 = Flowering Cyphophoenix Elegans

3 = The very Colourful Bass gracilis

4 = Cyphophoenix Alba ( Now Cyphophoenix Alba.)

5 Chambreyonia Macro

6 Cyphosperma Balansae. Will post a better pic

7 and 8 mistake of resending twice

9 =Actinokentia Di

10Basselinia Fav

11Basselinia Pancherii

12Kentiopsis Pyroformis

13 Chambreyonia hookeri

14 Knockout Colourful Cyphokentia Cerifera

15 Cyphokentia Macro

16 Mix of Alba,,Campecarpus,cerifera,and macro

17 New red leaf of Chambreyonia

More pics coming, And Thank You for inviting me in here Bill,and you do Win, i have no kentiopsis Magnifica. Pete

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A Few more pics of some New Caledonian Palms growing here in our gardens.

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New Caledonian Palms are Very rewarding and Very Colourful Palms to Grow. Pete

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Wow, nice photos of all those wonderful New Caledonians. My collection took a hit a few years ago in the drought, losing several choice palms unfortunately. Apart from that, I agree, they are very rewarding palms to grow, although a little slow to start off...:mrlooney:

Bill, keep up the good work, and Len, show us some more photos of yours...

I don't have anywhere near the diversity of species as Pete does, or Bill, or Mike Green, but love them just the same! I have a few that are flowering or fruiting now, so all is good!

Here is one that survived...its siblings all perished due to poor soil and no water...this one was also lucky as a nearby Casuarina sheared off some huge branches that just clipped it..you can see the last couple of smashed leaves...

Burretiokentia vielliardii

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Daryl

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Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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Pete, Mike will be hitting you up for a visit for sure. :drool:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Pete, Mike will be hitting you up for a visit for sure. :drool:

We wil make a day of it when it stops raining and i can tidy up

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Some really rare & beautifull palms there Pete & can one northern rivers palm nut come along with the Queensland boys please :drool:

Matt

Northern

New South Wales

Australia

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Some really rare & beautifull palms there Pete & can one northern rivers palm nut come along with the Queensland boys please :drool:

My Pleasure Matt,will keep you posted.

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Pete.. I concede to defeat.......

But its my pleasure if I get to see that stuff!!

:lol:

:drool:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Pete.. I concede to defeat.......

But its my pleasure if I get to see that stuff!!

:lol:

:drool:

Bill, You are welcome anytime, maybe wait till your american$ catches up to to the aussie$ :)

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Just noticed this today on my Basselinia gracilis

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Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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