Rafael 424 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 One night 28F for two hours. Heavy frost. Two nights 30F for five hours. Light frost. I thought it was not a tender palm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt 1,233 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 One night 28F for two hours. Heavy frost. Two nights 30F for five hours. Light frost. I thought it was not a tender palm... I'm very surprised your palm got so much cold/frost damage. I have a Sabal domingensis that I planted three years ago when it was about the size of your palm. Mine has never been cold/frost damage. My palm is still small, maybe a 1.25 meters in overall height. As you know from my other postings, I've dropped down to almost 20 degrees F (-6.6C), with five other nights around -5C, and my Sabal domingensis looks fine. And BTW, it's planted in the open. You palm looks like it will be fine. Perhaps has it gets larger it will be less prone to cold/frost damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 424 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 That´s kind of ridiculous, but i am thinking about protecting this palm from the next frost episodes... Livistonia nitida and sabal causarium, no damage, but this one like this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ampli 12 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Rafael, probably your plant come from greenhouse coltivation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gyuseppe 584 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Rafael my sabal domingensis and Livistonia nitida and sabal causarium have resisted to 28F/29F , no damage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt 1,233 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 That´s kind of ridiculous, but i am thinking about protecting this palm from the next frost episodes... Livistonia nitida and sabal causarium, no damage, but this one like this... I wouldn't be overly concerned. First, you palm is still very small (I don't know the history of it in terms of how long you've had it in the ground). Second, it's always colder closer to the ground. While you may have well recorded 28 degrees F (at what height and where in your yard), it may have been several degrees colder by your palm (at least if you had a radiational freeze, i.e., no/little wind and clear sky). Still, you are correct in protecting it. I would at least put a heavy covering (made of cotton) over it. While your sabal may not need this, on some small cold tender species of palms I place a plastic jug of hot water against the palm (then cover it) just before going to bed so the hot water will give it some heat for part of the night. This is mainly to protect the bud. Once all the heat transfers out of the jug, the water will have to freeze first before the palm stalk/bud will due to mineral salts in the palm (like ocean water freezes at a lower temperature than fresh water). One my African oil palm (on the coldest nights) I used two one gallon plastic jugs of hot water (one jug on opposite sides of the short emerging trunk) then I wrapped the trunk and jugs with a heavy mover's quilt. The next morning the water in the jugs was not frozen, so I can fairly assume the palm's bud wasn't cold damaged, at least to any great degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank 241 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Walt is right. Your plant will probably show less damage during similar conditions as it grows up from the ground. Also, S. domingensis do not like frost, especially when young. I think Merrill Wilcox related to me that while S. domingensis show cold damage at higher temps than S. causiarum, they will "survive" a hard freeze better. I've had three 3ft'ers in the ground for the past 2 years and these have made it through temps into the mid teens (F), although with substantial leaf damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edbrown_III 167 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I have been growing S. domingensis here in Jax for the last 15 years --- I didnt have them in the ground in 1989 but they have seen 20 a bunch of times. Large trees now they get foliage damage but still pull through. I have the large S. maritima also --- it gets burnt but I have it in the woods. I live about 70 miles northeast of Gainesville where Merrill lives so it is a bit milder (as it is more coastal) Best regards Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeye 15 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 hello rafael!! and your dypsis decipiens!!! does it take some frost without damage? OLIVIER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 424 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 Eight days have past, and the palm is showing the same damage, maybe something more, but is also pulling through. A new spear is emerging. Olivier, so far, my 3 dd are fine, without frost damage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeye 15 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 Olivier, so far, my 3 dd are fine, without frost damage it's a good news!! To be continued ...!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
