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is this the ultimate "prehistoric" tropical looking plant ?


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E. woodii

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I still think that Gunneras look the most prehistoric, but this is right up there.

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along with Araucaria rulei and Angiopteris evecta

Eric,

Can yo post any photos of the Araucaria rulei ? Are you growing this in Orlando?

Best regards

Ed Brown

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along with Araucaria rulei and Angiopteris evecta

Eric,

Can yo post any photos of the Araucaria rulei ? Are you growing this in Orlando?

Best regards

Ed Brown

Here are a few I found online. I have a couple seedlings I germinated a few months ago but none outdoors yet.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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along with Araucaria rulei and Angiopteris evecta

Eric,

Can yo post any photos of the Araucaria rulei ? Are you growing this in Orlando?

Best regards

Ed Brown

Here are a few I found online. I have a couple seedlings I germinated a few months ago but none outdoors yet.

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Eric

Orlando, FL

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Now thats a tree! Do you think they woud do better thatn the Wollemi pine--- I am running out of space for big trees here--- I might not be able to plant more than one in my future.

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Ed

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Dicksonia forest in Bolivia --- beautiful and prehistoric ---

Offered to keep the thread going

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Ed

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As Ed said, to keep it going....

....Richea pandanifolia, Tasmania....a very big heath!

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Ripped from the net!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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Eric in Orlando beat me to it but I agree that Angiopteris Evecta is probably the most prehistoric plant I have seen. They look like some kind of missing link between a Fern and a Cycad. Also they are HUGE and have petioles as big around as your arm!

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thanks what are these Pandanus or yucca?

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Ed

Neither Ed - they are literally a type of giant heath or Epacrid. Not related to Pandanus or Yucca, but the common name here is Pandani, I guess because the early botanists thought they looked like a Pandanus.

These things are far from tropical. They grow at about 1000m (3000') altitude in the mountains of Tasmania at 42 degrees south and are often covered in snow for weeks on end. Slow growing and difficult to keep alive in a garden, although apparently easier in a pot for some reason. They can grow to about 12m (40') high eventually.

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Jonathan

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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is there any plant in the world more prehistoric looking than a E. LATIFRONS ?

I rest my case :

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Just an additional comment that arenarius, horridus, and trispinosus all fall in the same family being very spiny and horrific looking.

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How about the xanthorrhoea glauca. These dudes can live 600 years so they really are prehistoric!!

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On 11/3/2010, 6:59:47, edbrown_III said:

 

 

Eric,

 

Can yo post any photos of the Araucaria rulei ? Are you growing this in Orlando?

 

Best regards

 

Ed Brown

Eric - did they make it into the ground?

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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On 11/4/2010, 8:35:00, Eric in Orlando said:

Here are a few I found online. I have a couple seedlings I germinated a few months ago but none outdoors yet.

Hey Eric, do you still have this one?

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We have 4 Araucaria rulei planted out at Leu Gardens. The largest is about 4 ft tall. I will get some photos on Monday.

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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1 hour ago, Eric in Orlando said:

We have 4 Araucaria rulei planted out at Leu Gardens. The largest is about 4 ft tall. I will get some photos on Monday.

Awesome, would love to see them. Speaking of which, I really need to get down there in person sometime soon. Only time I went was in 2007: and having just moved down from Illinois, wasn't as aware of the many tropical trees/plants and palms. In fact, we must have bypassed those areas as mostly what I remember were the nice live/laurel oak canopy throughout and more native plants/trees. I do however remember seeing an Araucaria there: all I remember was that the label said "Monkey puzzle." It was about 15 feet high and looked healthy so it must have been either bidwilli or angustifolia.

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I stand corrected, we have 3 Araucaria rulei planted out at Leu Gardens;

 

 

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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That is an awesome specimen!

I wish Wollemia nobilis would grow here. There is some hope, it has been grafted onto Agathis robusta rootstock and so far has been growing in Florida.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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On 9/10/2016, 8:24:33, Opal92 said:

Awesome, would love to see them. Speaking of which, I really need to get down there in person sometime soon. Only time I went was in 2007: and having just moved down from Illinois, wasn't as aware of the many tropical trees/plants and palms. In fact, we must have bypassed those areas as mostly what I remember were the nice live/laurel oak canopy throughout and more native plants/trees. I do however remember seeing an Araucaria there: all I remember was that the label said "Monkey puzzle." It was about 15 feet high and looked healthy so it must have been either bidwilli or angustifolia.

 

I just posted this over in a conifer forum, It is photos of Araucariaceae (Araucaria and Agathis) specimens here at Leu Gardens.

 

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/4159372/m=3/araucariaceae-collection-at-leu-gardens-agathis-and-araucaria

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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On 11/1/2010, 7:10:29, BS Man about Palms said:

E. woodii

 

On 11/9/2010, 7:49:05, Madchemis said:

Just an additional comment that arenarius, horridus, and trispinosus all fall in the same family being very spiny and horrific looking.

 

On 11/1/2010, 3:59:19, trioderob said:

is there any plant in the world more prehistoric looking than a E. LATIFRONS ?

Since there were a couple of responses indicating a preference for E woodii, and the Cape blue Encephalartos, I thought I would toss my hat into the ring with this juvenile Encephalartos horridus x woodii.  While none of the blue of mama Encephalartos, it does have her nice twisted structure and recurved leaves.  It looks like something only a dinosaur would munch on, not something I could imagine any wild or domestic Bovinae eating today.20160913-104A4213.thumb.jpg.e27470085cf3

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On 9/12/2016, 11:35:12, Eric in Orlando said:

I stand corrected, we have 3 Araucaria rulei planted out at Leu Gardens;

Nice looking plants, thanks for sharing the pics. I remember reading that in their native environment they like to grow in soil with nickel!? Regardless of that, they seem to be thriving in the soil there at Leu. I wonder what it's actual cold hardiness is. Realistically, it probably is the same or even more tender than heterophylla. Although since it hasn't been trialed much at all from what I've read, I'm very wishfully hoping it could be more hardy..... even hardy enough to grow in the Panhandle.

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On 9/12/2016 at 9:35 AM, Eric in Orlando said:

I stand corrected, we have 3 Araucaria rulei planted out at Leu Gardens;

 

 

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Can you speak to any freezes these things have lived through?

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