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Jeff, I can't believe how much yours has grown each year. It is fast!  Mine just sits there and hasn't grown since 2010 or 2011 when I bought it, although mine is heavily shaded. It still looks like a 7 gallon size tree today. I wonder why yours is such a fast grower.

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Approx 13 years old from healthy 15 gallon.

 

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Jeff, how old is yours?  I thought it wasn't much older.  Very impressive palms both, but I wonder if the difference in size is due to cutting out the twin?

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

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Mine had the "twin" cut out of it already when I bought it, but it is still as slow as molasses in January.

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I seem to remember Jeff saying he was repeatedly cutting out the suckers. And that it was slow until trunking, and then off to the races.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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heres a Decipiens I've had in ground for around 2.5 Years I think from a 1 Gal.  Growing in southwest Florida, in 3/4 day's sun.  gets no special attention just watering when dry and some fert here and there.  hope it keeps chugging. 

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On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2016‎ ‎8‎:‎28‎:‎31‎, coops 3214 said:

How many leaves does this one do per year?

About 4 leaves per year. Each new leaf is separated by about 4 inches of trunk.

So I'd say its putting on a bit more than a foot of trunk per year now.

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On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2016‎ ‎5‎:‎45‎:‎01‎, Ben in Norcal said:

Jeff, how old is yours?  I thought it wasn't much older.  Very impressive palms both, but I wonder if the difference in size is due to cutting out the twin?

Based on pics dated when it was much smaller .I'm guessing about 15 or 16 years old. So for my fading memorys sake.... I'm gonna estimate it was planted in 2000.

 

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On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2016‎ ‎8‎:‎52‎:‎12‎, Sandy Loam said:

Jeff, I can't believe how much yours has grown each year. It is fast!  Mine just sits there and hasn't grown since 2010 or 2011 when I bought it, although mine is heavily shaded. It still looks like a 7 gallon size tree today. I wonder why yours is such a fast grower.

Plant on a mound, Mine is planted where a planter box used to be so the soil level was about 4 inches above my lawn to begin with.

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On ‎6‎/‎5‎/‎2016‎ ‎5‎:‎14‎:‎18‎, palmtodd said:

heres a Decipiens I've had in ground for around 2.5 Years I think from a 1 Gal.  Growing in southwest Florida, in 3/4 day's sun.  gets no special attention just watering when dry and some fert here and there.  hope it keeps chugging. 

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Looks good.

 

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Today's pic.

 

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Record low temp 18f

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That right there is what u call palm porn:-) looks fantastic seems to be getting thicker at the base, 

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1 hour ago, coops 3214 said:

That right there is what u call palm porn:-) looks fantastic seems to be getting thicker at the base, 

Yea it's getting thicker.

I am a little concerned, the crown shaft is starting to touch my rain gutter.

ironic since I planted the tree, four feet from the house.

jeff

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2 hours ago, JEFF IN MODESTO said:

Today's pic.

 

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That looks great. :greenthumb:

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1 hour ago, JEFF IN MODESTO said:

Yea it's getting thicker.

I am a little concerned, the crown shaft is starting to touch my rain gutter.

ironic since I planted the tree, four feet from the house.

jeff

You'll have to modify that eve to accommodate that fantastic Dypsis 

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Won't the crownshaft soon be taller than the eaves, thereby eliminating the problem of contact? (...or will the trunk then be touching the eave?)

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On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2016‎ ‎10‎:‎31‎:‎46‎, Pando said:

Beautiful specimen, Jeff.

I hope you have a contingency plan when the trunk starts swelling up...

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Sadly I don't have a good option. :wacko:

The crown shaft is within inches of my rain gutter.

My original thought was if I plant the tree 4 ft from my house, then the trunk would have to be 8ft in diameter to cause problems.

At the time of planting, I Didn't know that they tiller.... but they do and this one traveled towards my house. A good example of this in the pic of Pauleens DD. I bet her's was planted in the middle of the mow strip... note now how closes to the curb it is.

Should the swelling trunk start causing damage to my rain gutter as opposed to leaning away, I will be forced into a plan " B" and this may be  real drastic as our association CC'rs do not allow for any modification of the outside of the house.

At this time, my plan "B'" is.... Cutting the roots between the trunk and the house with a chain saw, then try to pull the palm forward forcing the top forward a couple inches.

Things get too bad, I will offer it to a IPS member for transplantation.

 

 

 

 

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Ouch. You might be able to transplant it on-site by moving it 4-5 feet forward away from the house. Lots of digging involved all around and under the rootball, needs a big hole up front, but at least you don't have to lift it out of the hole. Maybe you can back up a truck close to it to pull it once the rootball has been dug out, and/or use hydraulic jacks and pieces of lumber to push the rootball forward once it's loose. At least you can keep the palm that way. The longer you wait the effort will be exponentially larger when it gets bigger.

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Someone once told me (perhaps speculatively) that a Dypsis Decipiens would die if transplanted, once established, because it is a type of palm that sends out so many lateral roots before it starts to grow.  If so, transplanting it could be fatal.

An alternative might be to cut around one side of the rootball in order to tip the tree away from the house, while leaving as many roots as possible undisturbed.   Years later, you would have a DD with a curved trunk, which could be quite attractive if it survived the trauma.  However, it would look very odd in the interim.  Until the trunk had corrected itself, Passers-by might think that a storm had toppled the tree over partially.

 

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8 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

Someone once told me (perhaps speculatively) that a Dypsis Decipiens would die if transplanted, once established, because it is a type of palm that sends out so many lateral roots before it starts to grow.  If so, transplanting it could be fatal.

An alternative might be to cut around one side of the rootball in order to tip the tree away from the house, while leaving as many roots as possible undisturbed.   Years later, you would have a DD with a curved trunk, which could be quite attractive if it survived the trauma.  However, it would look very odd in the interim.  Until the trunk had corrected itself, Passers-by might think that a storm had toppled the tree over partially.

 

Yup, That's exactly what I was thinking. Thing is, It is clearly is growing away from the Hibiscus plant right next to it. I'm thinking that if it touches the rain gutter, it will grow away from it.

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Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

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8 hours ago, doranakandawatta said:

Thrilling thread !
What happened to Modesto DD?

Sadly it died over the summer.

can you imagine the pita it was to haul off that fat trunk!

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I'm joking, my DD is doing just fine laughing at this winters frost.

 

ill post a pic soon.

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53 minutes ago, JEFF IN MODESTO said:

I'm joking, my DD is doing just fine laughing at this winters frost.

 

ill post a pic soon.

looking forward to your pictures Jeff :)

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