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Plumeria - aka Frangipani


Walter John

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another fruit salad photo, wet.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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My pulmerias have started to bloom & even the

desert rose_Adenium has started to bloom !

Here are some pictures from my garden_Hope

you guys like them.  :)

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Love,

Kris.

love conquers all..

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(iwan @ Dec. 22 2006,10:50)

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Do Plumerias need to go through their self dormancy to bloom?  Last year I had no blooms, but did in the previous year.  Last winter I kept all my Plumeria in the house, so they never defoliated.  They were in full baking sun all summer.  Are Blooms solely light, heat and fertilizer induced or is there something else?  I started hitting them with something like 10-50-10 in spring, but no blooms.

Not at all. Plumarias bloom from seed after about 3 to 5 years. They can bloom from a cutting anytime from the time they are cut. no dormancy is needed. They key is the health of the plant and age. Of the 130 plants I have most bloom at will and at random and yes it is dependent on fertilizer and heat. I have always used a 10-50-10 and it has worked great but this year I used a fruit and nut spike from HD and it worked ten times better. Now to go take pictures.

With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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Not sure why I missed this thread. Good one.

Daryl, those are great pics! I have never seen some of the colors you have. I wish we were a bit more tropical. They never look like they do it the tropics here and they tend to lose there leaves in winter.

Carlo, it is funny you brought up Plumeria pudica. I had never heard of this plant before. By mistake, Top Tropicals included it in my shipment of plants. So I did some research. Turns out to be a steal for me. It is from Venezuela and it is not deciduous. It does not have that plumeria fragrance, but still a great plant none the less. I think this will be a real winner in SoCal.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Thought I'd bring this back from the dead. Here's a plumeria to flower soon for the first time, the colour of which I do not know.

Any guesses ?

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Here's another one that has been flowering well lately...

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Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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(Wal @ Jan. 28 2007,13:22)

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Thought I'd bring this back from the dead. Here's a plumeria to flower soon for the first time, the colour of which I do not know.

Any guesses ?

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Here it is folks, finally opened.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Even in tropical climates most varieties of Plumeria will lose their leaves and go dormant for a few months.  However, some varieties can continue to flower (less heavily) even though there are no leaves on the plant.  In Hawaii Plumerias thrive on the sunny Kona coast and show off their flowering best at the hotter lower elevations with less rainfall.  

Presently I only have about 10 different varieties but plan to set out several more soon.  The only pics I have are these three . . .

Dwarf Singapore pink

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

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Kimo - tends to be an apricot/orange color

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

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Vera Cruz Rose - has the fragrance of a rose!

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

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Nice Vera Cruz Al, hopefully Daryl has some more in flower for us to gawk at.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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here's those full pink, yellow centres grouping up.

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and I like this colour of fruit salad which is in fade mode but looks richer.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Great pics all.

Here in Fiji these grow best on the drier places and flourish in the coastal sandy soils.

We have taken cuttings and left them lieing around for up to three weeks and they still will grow. Sometimes we sever limbs as large as 6 ft. and 6in.round and these quickly produce a good size tree.

These plants are nearly impossible to kill.

The one var. with the glossy, round tip leaf is the evergreen type and holds leaf all year but in our wet months it does get a fungus that can cause some leaf fall.

All are awesomw flowers.

Located on Vanua Levu near Savusavu (16degrees South) Elevation from sealevel to 30meters with average annual rainfall of 2800mm (110in) with temperature from 18 to 34C (65 to 92F).

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Here's another of that pink bunch, this pic shows the buds/flowers in various stages. Thought you might like.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Hi Wal,

That Hot Pink is nice. Local concensus is that those style of flowers originated in India. The fragrance is kind of 'coconutty'

Here are some more...

Another type of hot pink...

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Thai Red

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Something with more subtle tones...

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regards,

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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Dear Daryl  :)

fentastic stills & beautiful pul..

what impressed me the most of your still is the

3rd still which is the pink pul..

Thanks for those lovely flowers !

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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How do you make Plumeria bloom? I brought a cutting from Hawaii, it grew in size nicely but it has never produced flowers.

Ania

Ania

Houston, TX

zone 9a

"God in his wisdom made the fly

And then forgot to tell us why"

-Ogden Nash

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Dear Anna  :)

all you will need is summers with temperatures ranging from

94 to 106 F Avg.and the beauty of pulmeria and adenium is

that at one point of our summers they even shed leaves.

and the branches look like a skeleton like bare structure

and just flowers clinging on in clusters.very fentastic site to

look at.

and i do not use flowering mix,mulch,fertz or organica..

since they tend to grow heaviely and ask me bigger pots

and more water.with limited space in my roof top terrace_

space is a serious constrain.

and i water my plants & Pulmeria's every alternate days

only.

i hope you are living in a cool part of the U.S ?

and do not forget even this loves only free sandy soil

having rich areation & porous nature.

Heat & sunlight is a must for flowering.and not fertz  :)

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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I only have two growing here in Wai`anae.  We have some kind of bug that lays eggs where the flower stalk falls off.  The larve then eat out the heart of the branch and in time it just falls off.     :angry:            :angry:

Wai`anae Steve-------www.waianaecrider.com
Living in Paradise, Leeward O`ahu, Hawai`i, USA
Temperature range yearly from say 95 to 62 degrees F
Only 3 hurricanes in the past 51 years and no damage. No floods where I am, No tornados, No earthquakes
No moles, squirrels, chipmunks, deer, etc. Just the neighbors "wild" chickens

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I only have two growing here in Wai`anae.  We have some kind of bug that lays eggs where the flower stalk falls off.  The larve then eat out the heart of the branch and in time it just falls off.     :angry:            :angry:

Steve, do you have any further info on this.  I had this happen to some cuttings that I received.  I thought I had done something wrong, but I wonder if there is something more to it.  The cuttings became hollow shells over a short period of time.

Robert

Madera, CA (central San Joaquin valley)

9A

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Dear Guys  :)

i had this problem too with all cycas.when a new spear will pop up the butterflies will crowed the spear area,lay eggs.and when the spear stars to become leaves,the catterfillers will

eat it up.reagular feature for 3 years.then in our local dailies

their was an article on this problem and the solution they

mentioned is to spray neam based horticulure oil_diluted

with water say 2 to 4 spoons of oil to one liter of water

sprayed with hi pressure sprayer so it is well atomised to

small droplets.and before this sprayed liquid gets dried up

dust gently ant powder(some what like ddt & bhc)stuff !

do this procedure for every 3 days for 2 weeks are so.

my problem was solved.but now when cycas puts out spears i go on with this treatment,even if it is not infected.

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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(iwan @ Apr. 06 2007,01:59)

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(WaianaeSteve @ Apr. 05 2007,23:49)

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I only have two growing here in Wai`anae.  We have some kind of bug that lays eggs where the flower stalk falls off.  The larve then eat out the heart of the branch and in time it just falls off.     :angry:            :angry:

Steve, do you have any further info on this.  I had this happen to some cuttings that I received.  I thought I had done something wrong, but I wonder if there is something more to it.  The cuttings became hollow shells over a short period of time.

Robert,

  This what a "google" turned up.  Sounds like what I have and you have.

"Pests and diseases

Plumeria has few disease problems. The plumeria rust (Coleosporium

plumeria Pat.) is of fairly recent occurrence in Hawai‘i. It consists of orange

blistering or powder on the underside of leaves, and it develops after

prolonged wet periods. The leaves may fall if the rust is severe. Both P.

rubra and P. obtusa are susceptible, but some of the uncommon species

appear to be resistant. While fungicides specific for rust control are effective,

they are not normally used, as the disease rarely is severe enough to

damage the plant.

A black sooty mold develops on stems and leaves when scale insects,

whiteflies, or mealybugs are present. These insects exude a sweet, sticky

honeydew upon which the fungus flourishes. Although unsightly, the fungus

does not harm the tree (although the insects weaken it). Ants nourish

the insects and carry them up into the trees. The control for the sooty mold

problem lies with control of the insects.

Plumeria may be attacked by the long-horned beetle (plumeria stem

borer), thrips, a blossom midge, greenhouse and spiraling whiteflies, and

mites. Normally, existing predatory insects keep populations of most of

these in bounds. The borer is especially destructive, as its damage is done

inside the stems where insecticides are ineffective. Immediate removal of

affected branches and their destruction is the only present recommendation,

because spraying with insecticide would need to be carried out too

frequently to prevent egg-laying by the adult beetle. A new formulation of

the insecticide imidacloprid is available that can be sprayed on the branches

and foliage and offers up to four weeks protection against borer larvae

feeding. Plumeria is most susceptible to this insect when under stress."

One reason why one should not smuggle plumeria out of Hawaii.

Wai`anae Steve-------www.waianaecrider.com
Living in Paradise, Leeward O`ahu, Hawai`i, USA
Temperature range yearly from say 95 to 62 degrees F
Only 3 hurricanes in the past 51 years and no damage. No floods where I am, No tornados, No earthquakes
No moles, squirrels, chipmunks, deer, etc. Just the neighbors "wild" chickens

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Thanks Steve,

I will watch out for that.  All of the cuttings I purchased from one vendor did the same thing.  My cuttings from Home Depot and other sources were not affected.  Don't remember if they came out of HI or not.

Kind of surprising a systemic insecticide would not be effective on the larvae.

Robert

Madera, CA (central San Joaquin valley)

9A

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Great pics!!

Where's the best place (in the USA) to buy them online?

Called a few "bigger" local nurseries and they don't carry

them...  :(  . I googled and not much came up either.

Also, whats the growth rate? fast...slow?

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