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"Time To Trunking" for palms in southern california...


trioderob

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thought it might be interesting to get an idea of the approx time it takes to get

some of the more desirable palms to go from seedling to first stage of trunking

under ideal conditions in southern california.

so for example with proper feeding, watering, good soil conditions etc

you can take a Jubaea from seedling to trunking in approx ?? years......

of special interest to me is any of the Dypsis

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Boy, that's a broad subject. But here's my 2 cents.. I remember hearing Phil @ Jungle Music say that it takes about 5 years to get a good 5 gallon plant from seed. On average, I'd say that's pretty accurate. Obviously palms like Veitchis go a lot faster & others a lot slower. So it seems that most of my palms, on average, take an additional 3-5 years to begin trunking. Meaning that they're 8 to 10 years old from seed. Those first years are sloooow...

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Totally depends on location, soil, temps, and of course genetics. That being said, My DYpsis Decipians took around seven years to trunk from a 15 gallon. I imagine the palm was five years at that size so 12 to 15 years from seed.

Jubaea is slower. I grow lots of Jubaea and from seed your talking 20 years.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

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Boy, that's a broad subject. But here's my 2 cents.. I remember hearing Phil @ Jungle Music say that it takes about 5 years to get a good 5 gallon plant from seed. On average, I'd say that's pretty accurate. Obviously palms like Veitchis go a lot faster & others a lot slower. So it seems that most of my palms, on average, take an additional 3-5 years to begin trunking. Meaning that they're 8 to 10 years old from seed. Those first years are sloooow...

so seed to trunking is approx 10-15 years.

what about some of the other dypsis such as the teddy bears or pembana ???

anyone have a comment ?

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Hmm.

For Chambeyronea, maybe 12 years, or thereabouts.

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Boy, that's a broad subject. But here's my 2 cents.. I remember hearing Phil @ Jungle Music say that it takes about 5 years to get a good 5 gallon plant from seed. On average, I'd say that's pretty accurate. Obviously palms like Veitchis go a lot faster & others a lot slower. So it seems that most of my palms, on average, take an additional 3-5 years to begin trunking. Meaning that they're 8 to 10 years old from seed. Those first years are sloooow...

so seed to trunking is approx 10-15 years.

what about some of the other dypsis such as the teddy bears or pembana ???

anyone have a comment ?

Seven years +/- for Teddy's, Pembana's, etc.... Most smaller Dypsis 5 to 10 years, big Dypsis 10 to 15 years.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

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On the coast, I go with "It happens when it happens"...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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On the coast, I go with "It happens when it happens"...

Bill-

thing must be very different on the coast.

last year I tracked the weather at my place near SDSU

and almost any day from may to oct it was in the mid 80s while

the coast was in the mid 70s.

that must really slow things down.

on the other hand I given up on flamethrowers because they fry at my

place but have seen a wondeful example in oceanbeach.....

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my buddy bob(palmgrover) has an AWESOME c.macrocarpa & he is a bit farther inland than you,i am guessing only a mile or two.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Rob- I've noticed that it takes about 4 leaves for a Chamby to acclimate. That may take 2 years.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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there are SO many variables i dont think that trying to associate a definite time with it is even valid. :winkie:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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