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BS Mans general observations of a cold spring break

BS Man about Palms

By BS Man about Palms
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Z4Devil Experienced

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Hey, Bill -

cool pics, thank you for being a part of your trip. :)

Please, take along the 45.00 USD L. hoehnei from Jeff and start shipment. :D :D :D

Love, Verena

Member of the ultimate Lytocaryum fan society :)

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Tyrone Grand Master

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Here are some pics of my palms that I promised you Bill.

Any ideas what they may be?

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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some more

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Closer view of petioles showing the black striping. (The scale has been killed-this species seems to attract scale for some reason.)

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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another

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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another

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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another individual petiole shot

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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another

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Each individual from above

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Tyrone Grand Master

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The final two.

What do you think? Any ideas what they may be, apart from a palm of the genus Dypsis. :D

Best regards

Tyrone

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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BS Man about Palms

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Tyrone,

The fatter one appears to be Dypsis ovobontsira/dark mealybug. The other ones probably are too!

Great palms that luv heat.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Tyrone Grand Master

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That's what I initially thought too. Great minds think alike. :)

I'm glad no matter what they actually are because I love the look of these. They should look fantastic when they get bigger.

One question though. RPS sells both D ovobontsira and D sp Dark mealy bug. Are they the same???????????

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Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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You know, I'm just not sure...but my hunch is they are the same.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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LJG Grand Master

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You know, I'm just not sure...but my hunch is they are the same.

They are not the same. Not saying what Jeff Marcus and RPS is selling is the real D ovobontsira, but it is certainly growing different then the Dark Mealy.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Tyrone

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Well I have both growing from RPS seed so in time I'll be able to see if they're different.

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Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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On Weds morning Jeff and I ran thru his yard again before taking me to the airport.

Here are Jeff's Dypsis Slick Willys.. He calls them the "upright leaf form of Dypsis onilahensis" Over 8 years in the ground?

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Check out those heels still on the palm.

Well, if you could see them they would be amazing!

And For Peter and some of us out in So Cal. one of Jeff's Merta balanses ?

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Please show us more trees... I know Jeff has SOME...

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

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BS Man about Palms

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Sorry Ari- Camera's empty, no more pictures fall out when I tip it upside down! :(

Plus, it was winter, most were just branches right now...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Well I have both growing from RPS seed so in time I'll be able to see if they're different.

Best regards

Tyrone

I got mine from Jeff Marcus. So I guess I should be careful in assuming RPS got theirs from the same source. Might be two different plants if they came from two different sources.

You should be able to tell after the first few leaves they are different.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Tyrone Grand Master

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My D ovobontsira's from RPS tend to be getting that orange new leaf like the 4 unknown palms I posted, that appear to be what are being called D ovobontsira. So maybe they are the same. However my dark mealy bugs are just sprouts but do appear different to my ovobontsira's at the same stage. Still it's really too early to tell.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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freakypalmguy

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Looks like you had a great time homey.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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My D ovobontsira's from RPS tend to be getting that orange new leaf like the 4 unknown palms I posted, that appear to be what are being called D ovobontsira. So maybe they are the same. However my dark mealy bugs are just sprouts but do appear different to my ovobontsira's at the same stage. Still it's really too early to tell.

Best regards

Tyrone

I know it is early but does one seem to be faster then the other too?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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My D ovobontsira's from RPS tend to be getting that orange new leaf like the 4 unknown palms I posted, that appear to be what are being called D ovobontsira. So maybe they are the same. However my dark mealy bugs are just sprouts but do appear different to my ovobontsira's at the same stage. Still it's really too early to tell.

Best regards

Tyrone

I know it is early but does one seem to be faster then the other too?

I think ovobontsira may be quicker but maybe it's still too early to say.

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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My D ovobontsira's from RPS tend to be getting that orange new leaf like the 4 unknown palms I posted, that appear to be what are being called D ovobontsira. So maybe they are the same. However my dark mealy bugs are just sprouts but do appear different to my ovobontsira's at the same stage. Still it's really too early to tell.

Best regards

Tyrone

I know it is early but does one seem to be faster then the other too?

I think ovobontsira may be quicker but maybe it's still too early to say.

Tyrone

This is what I noticed. At least at seedling stages anyway. Which might be good for me since the Darl Mealy is slow here in SoCal!

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Looks like you had a great time homey.

:)

Kept wondering if you were in the front of the planes I was in...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Ohhhh my eyes!!!!!! You had to throw in the shots of your neked legs....ahhhhhh

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Ohhhh my eyes!!!!!! You had to throw in the shots of your neked legs....ahhhhhh

Avoid Ryans thread at all costs then.....

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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