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BS Mans general observations of a cold spring break


BS Man about Palms

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I'm sure you know where I went, heres what I saw. Mostly peoples collections or recollections... :D

Cold.

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Dypsis "mealybug" (manajarensis or malcomberi)

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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More gems..

Large Dypsis "dark mealybug" (ovobontsira)

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A recovering and a big Dypsis tokorahvina.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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A real Orania ravaka.

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Jeff's much groped Dypsis mealybug only for teasing, not for sale.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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A Dypsis "dark mealybug" for sale AND Dypsis basalonga for sale too.

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All sizes of Ravenea krociana

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Dypsis canaliculata. We would KILL for ones this size out here...

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Dypsis hovomantsina

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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The edge of Jim Glock lends scale to the 10 year old Actinokentia divartica

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Jim also thought this Phoenix might be root-bound. Second opinions?:huh:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Those basilonga's look really nice. Where's the white stem?

I have another 60 photo's or so to post, stay tuned...

Wait till you see the BIG basalonga's..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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longest thread title EVER! :mrlooney:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Correction

Dark Mealy WAS for sale. :D

A Dypsis "dark mealybug" for sale AND Dypsis basalonga for sale too.

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With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

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longest thread title EVER! :mrlooney:

Yurr just jealous because we had colder weather that one weekend than you San Diegoans. But were back to frequent rains and higher, warmer, near perfect, growing temps. :blink:

Bill,

Seriously, are you NOT interested in ANY other palm species BESIDES Dypsis and New Caledonia species???? I thought I saw many species of Butia, Syagrus, CIDP and other species of the genus Phoenix in your yard the last time I was out for a visit. Just asking.... :drool:

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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jeff its "san diegans."

cant you floridoans get anything right!?! :mrlooney:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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lets try jeffs method of just adding "-ans" to the end:

floridaans.

perfect! :blink:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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lets try jeffs method of just adding "-ans" to the end:

floridaans.

perfect! :blink:

Hey paul,

That reminds me, were you still planning a return trip back here around April? You know, by yourself this time. Just asking because, YOU filled the car after you finished, and it was YOU that sent Andrea a very lovely thank-you card and You changed the sheets on the bed before you left. Oh, and the cut flowers you put in the vase before YOU left was a nice touch, Andrea really thought that was sweet from you. So, by all means, YOUR welcomed back anytime.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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lets try jeffs method of just adding "-ans" to the end:

floridaans.

perfect! :blink:

No, I think Floridaans is the language that rednecks speak here, the name being modeled after Afrikaans

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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What am I chopped liver?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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What am I chopped liver?

Don't make me answer that! blink.gif Jumped in before Paul could jump on you post. mrlooney.gif

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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OKKAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY............. moving on then.... I think I am the chopped Liver here... :mrlooney:

Heres Jeff next to a freshly planted Dypsis prestonia from the capable havesting hands of Pete Balasky..

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Jeff showing off the Dypsis caniculata I planted too..

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Jeff-

As to those "other" palms.. I'll have to show you my property lines again, those were my neighbors palms.. :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Now to Jeffs house..

His big Dypsis sp. mealybug..

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the trunkal region

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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the trunkal region with my little size 9 for scale..

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Jeffs largest Dypsis hovomantsina

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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OK. Follow me on this one Dypsis folk....

Jeff said he got this as Dypsis "fibrosa" about 14 years ago...

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It is now generally regarded as Dypsis tokoravina after John Dransfields last visit to Floribunda..

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this has been in mostly shade, but is now getting more sun...

Now remember what this looks like and go to the next post..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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This is from the SAME seed batch as the above!!

It looks very much like the Dypsis "orange crush/pilulifera", but with maybe a smaller "trunkal region"?

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This one has regular leaflets, not grouped..??

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Is it a hybrid, or a different species or a variation...?? Jeff had just a few this way, most were like the others in the above post.

(I do this primarily to get Jeffs dander up)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Hey this is sporadic and chronological picturing taking here.....mostly.

Next day, Jeffs "true" Dypsis ambositrae, again from the helpful harvesting hands of Pete Balasky... :rolleyes:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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And now for completely different...

or at least a completely different Jeff.

Jeff Cramer as street124 was completely generous enough to pick me up and take me away like Calgon to his place, apologizing the whole way for all the cold damage I'd see...:( JC is cool!

First I saw this..I think its an Areca macrocaylx? outside, right next to Jeffs pool.

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Then he didn't think it out of the ordinary when I spied the red leaf on his Chambeyronia houliou.

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"Damn you Jeff Cramer"....:rage:

(Sorry, I was channeling Pohokelapa..)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I believe this was a little Cyphosperma balanse??

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Not sure why I took this picture, nor am I entirely sure what it is... I was probably showing a New Caledonia palm that scoffed at his cold...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I AM sure why I took THIS picture. Jeff is standing next to his -possible- Dypsis "sp. "White stem"....

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Jeff brought it up that Christian thought it might be after I took an interest in it. I took several pics of it and need to compare to ones I have of the others. The story/timeline adds up per Jeff C. , but odds are way against it. I am not sure yet and will bring it up in the mammoth D. "white stem" thread...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Mr Cramer has cool Sh*t all over the place just waiting to be planted. He said he has done a lot of planting at a tiny size.

Dypsis tennuissama?

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Something else cool and rare.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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More cool shtuff.

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Is this the bomb or what?? :drool::unsure:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Happy New Cal B. gracilis or eurostachys...

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Something else I can't remember, maybe a bigger D. betafaka? ?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Some reason I took this too...:huh:

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I thought the leaf arrangement was cool on this palm but Jeff couldn't recall the name. It got pretty toasted, but may come back.. I hope... :(

Any ideas?

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THEN, Jeff took me BACK to Jeff's just to get rid of me, I'm sure.. :D

Great stuff Jeff!

Next up, a brief trip to Homestead...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Stopped at Redland nursery on Monday to see what can be shipped.

Who says Chambeyronia hookeri's can't be grown in full sun..?

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Here is a Heterospathe delicatula. :bemused:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Found the variegated Chamdorea not for sale..

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Even the seeds were white!!

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I'm pacing myself..more later..

I do have to Thank EllisB for piloting me around, great to meet the group down there!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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lets try jeffs method of just adding "-ans" to the end:

floridaans.

perfect! :blink:

Hey paul,

That reminds me, were you still planning a return trip back here around April? You know, by yourself this time. Just asking because, YOU filled the car after you finished, and it was YOU that sent Andrea a very lovely thank-you card and You changed the sheets on the bed before you left. Oh, and the cut flowers you put in the vase before YOU left was a nice touch, Andrea really thought that was sweet from you. So, by all means, YOUR welcomed back anytime.

Jeff

dewd,you got the WRONG pohonkelapa! i would never do all those things :rolleyes:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Pete Balasky MUST plant this Orania ravaka soon!! I may make a special trip there just to do it for him, but Mr Searle offered to act in my stead... :blink:

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Its leaves are like 5 feet plus and the base is at least 6" across... :drool:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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All the talk I've heard about the Florida boys being behind on the Dypsis game doesn't add up. I'm seeing the oppisite here, Dypsis galore! Dypsis: 'white stem', basalonga, 'mealy bug', 'dark mealy bug :drool:' prestonia, caniculata, pilulifera, ect. All the bad boys I want.

Vince Bury

Zone 10a San Juan Capistrano, CA - 1.25 miles from coast.

http://www.burrycurry.com/index.html

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Dypsis canaliculata. We would KILL for ones this size out here...

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Dypsis hovomantsina

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I've got one of those D canaliculata's here about the same size. I bought it as D canaliculata as well, BUT, I personally don't think this is THE D canailculata that hasn't been seen since the 1940's.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Vince- They ARE behind, but when the South Florida stuff grows at twice the speed of us, it doesn't take long to catch up! :blink:

Tyrone- no real argument from me on that.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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