happ 141 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Climatologist from Jet Propulsion Lab points out the cold nature of these storms. For example, recorded the first sub-50 minimum for the month last night when it was partly cloud [49F\ 9.4C]. That's cold during storm conditions. Colleagues: Here is my take on whether these storms are El Nino. I'm interested in your ideas on this. While the rest of the country has been battered by strong, cold outbreaks bringing storms over the past two weeks, snow and frigid temperatures, California remained mild and dry. Now it's our turn. Riding an extremely strong (200+ mile/hour) jet stream out of the Gulf of Alaska, a conveyor belt of 3 or 4 very strong and wet storms are lined up to batter all of California this coming week. The Jet Stream is very powerful (+200 mph) and pushing these wet N. Pacific storms down the West Coast from the north. This is the pattern that the rest of the U.S. has had in the past two weeks, but shifted farther west. I call it the Yukon Express ... they'll be cold storms the rest of the week. (The next two more powerful storms.) El Nino storms are different. I figure this is due to a (weak) negative phase of the Arctic Oscillation. For Arctic Oscillation weather patterns, see: http://nsidc.org/arcticmet/patterns/arctic_oscillation.html While not a canonical El Nino pattern, the El Nino warmed subtropics could be pumping moisture into these storms as they move south and will give rain and snowfall totals a boost. But not much! I don't know anyone else that has given this explanation, check it out. But, this ain't an El Nino pattern. Although I've heard many TV weather folks channeling El Nino. Next, California has been suffering continuing drought; CA reservoirs (including Lakes Mead and Powell) are way down (<50%), we've been drawing down our groundwater supplies, and most Californians are rationing. So, all this rain and snowpack is sweet. It won't cure the drought, but water managers are stoked. Also surfers, big surf dude! Although the coast is getting a real battering. Patzert Edited January 19, 2010 by happ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites