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velutina

Well, Keith pretty much predicted the most devastating freeze event in my lifetime... Keith, what do you say about next winter?

The sun better start making some spots, and soon.

Just saw this link. Relevant?

NASA- Sun Awakens

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Tyrone

Well, Keith pretty much predicted the most devastating freeze event in my lifetime... Keith, what do you say about next winter?

The sun better start making some spots, and soon.

Just saw this link. Relevant?

NASA- Sun Awakens

Interesting. I have heard that the sun is ready to go into a very active phase. It does it in cycles, but the next one is meant to be the biggest we've seen in decades, so it will test out all this new technology we've become totally reliant on and didn't have years ago. Palmtalk may have some interuptions as the internet burns out.

But will it make my coconut fruit, that is the question. :D

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Tyrone

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_Keith

It does promise to be an interesting cycle. So, what's next, the warmest winter in the last 10 to 15 years. Who knows? I have no predictions on this one, at least none that I want to come true.

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Tyrone

Well, I might make a prediction, for what it's worth, which is nothing. If we get increased solar activity and intensity, I think we'll see greater equatorial convection and more warming and melting of the polar ice caps. The wet tropics may push further away from the equator than previously before and hurricanes and cyclones and typhoons may be a little more angry during this event. They after all get their energy from the ocean which directly absorbs it from the sun.

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Tyrone

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palmsOrl

I read that the sun's heat takes roughly 2 years to reach the earth, so I assume there would be this 2 year time delay before the effects of a more active sun would manifest (at least those effects due to increased heat output by the sun).

-Michael

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_Keith

I read that the sun's heat takes roughly 2 years to reach the earth, so I assume there would be this 2 year time delay before the effects of a more active sun would manifest (at least those effects due to increased heat output by the sun).

-Michael

Unfortunately, the electromagnetic radiation does not take nearly that long. It travels at, or nearly at the speed of light.

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RyManUtah

i hope its moderate! last year was freezing and it even snowed a few times! i remember back in 07, when it never got below 34. that was my kinda winter =]

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Ryland

You had a good prediction alright. It was a bitter winter on the West Coast of the USA. Glad it's over.

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_Keith

Guess what? It might be ba-ack!!

Earth facing a mini-Ice Age 'within ten years' due to rare drop in sunspot activity

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1POXWa7yj

The sun is heading into an unusual and extended period of hibernation that could trigger a mini-Ice Age on Earth, scientists claim.

A decrease in global warming might result in the years after 2020, the approximate time when sunspots are expected to disappear for years, maybe even decades.

While the effects of a calmer sun are mostly good - there'd be fewer disruptions of satellites and power systems - it could see a sharp turnaround in global warming.

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A giant magnetic loop (right) filled with glowing-hot gas blasts away from the sun in 2003, while two Jupiter-sized sunspots also erupt. Within ten years the sun will be in an unusual and extended period of hibernation that could trigger a mini-Ice Age on Earth, scientists claim

An absence of sunspots is not an unprecedented situation. It has happened before, but not since the early 18th century.

Lead researcher Frank Hill, of the National Solar Observatory, said: 'The solar cycle is maybe going into hiatus, sort of like a summertime TV show.'

While scientists don't know why the sun is going quiet, all the signs are that it will.

Dr Hill and his team have based their prediction on three changes in the sun spotted by scientific teams - weakening sunspots; fewer streams spewing from the poles of the sun's corona; and a disappearing solar jet stream.

Dr Richard Altrock, the study's co-author and an astrophysicist at the Air Force Research Laboratory, said these three cues show that 'there's a good possibility that the sun could be going into some sort of state from which it takes a long time to recover'.

Their prediction is specifically aimed at the solar cycle starting in 2020.

Experts say the sun has already been unusually quiet for about four years with few sunspots - higher magnetic areas that appear as dark spots.

The enormous magnetic field of the sun dictates the solar cycle, which includes sunspots, solar wind and ejection of fast-moving particles that sometimes hit Earth.

Every 22 years, the sun's magnetic field switches north and south, creating an 11-year sunspot cycle.

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The sun has already been unusually quiet for about four years with few sunspots - higher magnetic areas that appear as dark spots. Scientists predict the solar cycle starting in 2020 will see sunspots disappear altogether for a period of decades

At peak times, like 2001, there are sunspots every day and more frequent solar flares and storms that could disrupt satellites.

Earlier this month, David Hathaway, Nasa's top solar storm scientist, predicted that the current cycle, which started around 2009, will be the weakest in a century.

Mr Altrock also thinks the current cycle won't have much solar activity, after tracking streamers from the solar corona, the sun's outer atmosphere seen during eclipses.

The streamers normally become busy around the sun's poles a few years before peak solar storm activity.

That 'rush to the poles' would have happened by now, but it hasn't and there's no sign of it yet. That also means the cycle after that is uncertain, he said.

Matt Penn of the National Solar Observatory, another study co-author, said sunspot magnetic fields have been steadily decreasing in strength since 1998.

If they continue on the current pace, their magnetic fields will be too weak to become spots as of 2022 or so, he said.

Jet streams on the sun's surface and below are also early indicators of solar storm activity, and they have not formed yet for the 2020 cycle. That indicates that there will be little or delayed activity in that cycle, said Hill, who tracks jet streams.

There are questions about what this means for Earth's climate. Three times in the past the regular 11-year solar cycle has gone on an extended vacation - at the same time as cool periods on Earth.

Sceptics of man-made global warming from the burning of fossil fuels have often pointed to solar radiation as a possible cause of a warming Earth, but they are in the minority among scientists.

Earth has warmed as solar activity has decreased.

Mr Hill and his colleagues wouldn't discuss the effects of a quiet sun on temperature or global warming.

'If our predictions are true, we'll have a wonderful experiment that will determine whether the sun has any effect on global warming,' he said.

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amazondk

Keith,

I saw this information as well yesterday. One thing the article I read also stated was that they did not know if the mini ice age was totally a sun spot related or if the high volcanic activity also had a role. Since it seems that the volanoes are also waking up they could play a role here as well. Here in Brazil the air traffic in the southern part of the country has been impacted as the airports in Argentina have been shut down.

dk

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_Keith

Keith,

I saw this information as well yesterday. One thing the article I read also stated was that they did not know if the mini ice age was totally a sun spot related or if the high volcanic activity also had a role. Since it seems that the volanoes are also waking up they could play a role here as well. Here in Brazil the air traffic in the southern part of the country has been impacted as the airports in Argentina have been shut down.

dk

Don, volcanic activity has played a huge role in global weather in the past, and at anytime there are many interacting forces, sometimes compounding the effect, and at other times offsetting the effect. I find the discussion fascinating.

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amazondk

Keith,

Climate is a great subject. And, whatever happens we will find out.

dk

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