Rafael 423 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Hi Zeeth! I have just ordered two beccariophoenix alfredii, 40 cm tall. Later will upload pics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone 1,974 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Zeeth the pic in Post 36 is really special IMO. Imagine a forest of them. I reckon they are the coconut alternative for pool plantings in California and southern Australia, and even a driveway coconut alternative for the tropics etc where falling coconuts tend to destroy cars. Beautiful. Best regards Tyrone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan 64 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 They look better than any coconut I've ever seen - more shiny and full looking - like a good head of hair (though not mine!). Just wish I could convince my alfedii'd to grow a bit faster.... Great photo's thanks. Jonathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alberto 1,533 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 THANK YOU VERY MUCH Keith for this pics. :drool: I was drooling from the first to the last one,specially #39,were the alfrediis are growing near that little stream (looks like our ´´lajeados´´ streaming trough the campos vegetation here) Fantastic pics. Very nice collor on the fruits! Why the spathas were bundeled with an inflorescence in the last pic? Collecting pollen??? Do you know??? Pic of a ´´lajeado´´,only they are surrounded by S.romanzoffiana and araucaria angustifolia.... http://canionturismo.com.br/cambara-do-sul/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lajeado-da-margarida.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gileno Machado 200 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Superb habitat photos Zeeth, thanx for sharing...I hadn't realized how B. alfredi thrives in such rather dry conditions, restricted to valleys in humid microclimates...Now I may keep my seedlings in the dry side for the winter. Hey Alberto...are you growing Beccarios down there in your lajeados yet? Do you want a big seedling that I can take down to Rio next month? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Central Floridave 78 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 thanks for the shots of alfredii. I was wondering what mine would look like in the future (if it makes it). My small seedling survived our record cold this winter unprotected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alberto 1,533 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Hey Alberto...are you growing Beccarios down there in your lajeados yet? Do you want a big seedling that I can take down to Rio next month? Hi Gileno, B.alfredii was on my list for´´ must have´´ for several years,and when RPS was selling them for the first time some years ago,I imediatelly bought 20 seeds and I planted them out now for one or two years here in Carambeí and also in warmer Tibagi... and they are thrriving. I only can hope that someday I´ll see a beauty like this on this shots, growing here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JD in the OC 51 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Superb!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoconutFreak 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Holy F#$K those Beccariophoenix alfredii's look like coconuts. Thanks for the pic Zeeth! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoconutFreak 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I have two Beccariophoenix sp Windows seedlings, but sorry have no photos yet. Will try to take some soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wai`anae Steve 18 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I have two in the ground for maybe a year on average. They went in at different times. The Alfredii went in the ground in July of '08 , Madagascarensis ground in August of '09 Here are two of each. Alfred :-) first. Lost it's windows if it really ever had any. Madagascarensis still has windows, but the leaves are very yellow. Gotta add something to the soil. this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves. Both were bought from Jeff Marcus back in 2008. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Palm Nut 301 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 This is my Beccariophoenix window form. MIke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wai`anae Steve 18 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 This is my Beccariophoenix window form. MIke Nice Palm Mike. Nice Ranch Hand Also... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,259 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Nice pics guys. Steve, some iron would help the windows form, throw some Blood meal down and it should green up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Heath 34 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find! Thanks in advance, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redant 1,128 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I have two in the ground for maybe a year on average. They went in at different times. The Alfredii went in the ground in July of '08 , Madagascarensis ground in August of '09 Here are two of each. Alfred :-) first. Lost it's windows if it really ever had any. Madagascarensis still has windows, but the leaves are very yellow. Gotta add something to the soil. this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves. Both were bought from Jeff Marcus back in 2008. "this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves." IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON and some more iron, they are iron hogs and croak without it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,259 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find! Thanks in advance, Mark JD in the OC has some that I know of, also Floribunda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 5,640 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Last night I took photos of the largest of 5 B. alfredii I germinated easily from seed last year and the B. madagascariensis I bought from Jeff Searle in spring 2009. It has more than doubled in size since I planted it from a 3g and sailed through our wretched winter with only minor tip burn. I brought the B. alfrediis inside only when temps fell below freezing because they were in 1g pots and I feared root damage from cold. Very robust palms. Beccariophoenix alfredii in 1g and B. madagascariensis in ground Beccariophoenix alfredii Beccarophoenix madagascariensis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter John 217 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Here's a group of Beccario from Mark Daish's in Babinda NQ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoconutFreak 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Those are fabulous Beccariophoenix in Babinda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Heath 34 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find! Thanks in advance, Mark JD in the OC has some that I know of, also Floribunda Thanks for the info Keith, I ordered a 7gallon this morning from JD in the OC! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,259 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Those are some lovely Beccarios Wal! Mark, make sure to post pics when you get it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JD in the OC 51 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Mark, got your order, thanks! B. alfredii is a GREAT palm.. We will ship it first thing next week. JD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamjv 81 Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Meg, what kind of temps did your Becc. Mad. see??? Good to hear it only had minor tip burn. Jv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 5,640 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 Meg, what kind of temps did your Becc. Mad. see??? Good to hear it only had minor tip burn. Jv JV, my B. mad. took multiple nights below 40 and days below 55. On Jan. 9 we got persistent rain past dark with daytime temps below 39 that fell to freezing that night. On Jan. 10 temps reached 40s with gale-force winds. I was able to cover it with a t-shirt before nightfall. The morning of Jan. 11 low reached 28.5. Nights the rest of the week hovered near freezing. Considering the bashing this palm took this winter - temps have been running 10-20 degrees below normal until this last week - it is bouncing back fine. I'm thinking of planting my 1g B. alfredii near its cousin. My in-ground palms in the back yard are running 25%+ death toll. I think I've lost all my Pinangas, as well as my Hydriasteles, Rhopaloblastes, Arecas and Euterpes. Yesterday we pulled out two P. speciosas. Today we pulled our 5' Licuala grandis. And I'm getting bad vibes about the Bentinckia, Cocos, and worst of all, the Areca concinna. A lot of stuff that seemed to survive the Jan. 9-11 major hit may have been done in by months of below normal chill. In the next few weeks I'll post a final death toll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamjv 81 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 Meg, thanks for the update. Yes it's been a terrible winter and I kept pulling my potted B.Mad inside every time we were heading into the 20s or lower. By accident, I did leave it out on the last hard freeze where it saw and survived 26F. The palm has about 40-50% frond burn but seems to be growing. Clearly this will need to be a potted palm for me and my location but I'll enjoy it none the less... Jv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 423 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position. One has never grown anything. The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... Hello Zeeth! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,259 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position. One has never grown anything. The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... Hello Zeeth! They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 423 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position. One has never grown anything. The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... Hello Zeeth! They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground? They are in the ground for two months. In the meanwhile i got another one, a gift, from the same nursery, but i am a little worried about puting it in the ground. I am 900 mts from the sea, have a good humidity ratio, salt winds, not very strong sun (coastal sun). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeeth 2,259 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position. One has never grown anything. The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... Hello Zeeth! They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground? They are in the ground for two months. In the meanwhile i got another one, a gift, from the same nursery, but i am a little worried about puting it in the ground. I am 900 mts from the sea, have a good humidity ratio, salt winds, not very strong sun (coastal sun). Hmm, it sounds like they may be growing a lot of roots under that ground. It seems like this species will grow underground before they do above ground. You might want to keep the one in the pot so you have something to grow while the other 2 are creeping along. I'd say you should grow the other one until it starts putting out leaves with the windows in them, and then adjust it slowly out into the full sun, and maybe plant it when it has fully pinnate leaves. Your conditions sound good for this palm, so once you get them growing, they should do fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 423 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 I will act as suggested, thanks, and later i will let you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJQ 10 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Rafael, My one has been planted for a few months now and it got Sunburnt. I put a mini "G" over it to increase the temps, the new frond looks a lot better but still has a bit of sunburn even under the mini "G". I shall leave it in there untill this time next year. When hopefully it should have acclimasied by then. Regards Andy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 423 Report post Posted June 28, 2010 Andy, sorry, but what do you mean by "Mini G"? Regards. Rafael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJQ 10 Report post Posted June 29, 2010 Rafael, it is a miniture plastic green house. Regards Andy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peachy 291 Report post Posted June 29, 2010 Rafael, mine burnt in the hot summer sun too, I had to put some shade cloth over it. Now that its cold here I took the cloth away and its coping perfectly with our winter sun so it will be well acclimatised by summer. Peachy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafael 423 Report post Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) Well, i think i am gonna put a mini shade cloth over it. Edited June 29, 2010 by rafael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redant 1,128 Report post Posted June 29, 2010 I would replace those pretty white rocks with some nice thick mulch. I have one in full sun and looks great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hanapalms 12 Report post Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) I planted a couple B. madagascariensis at least two or three years back and a couple are still in pots (same age): the ones in the ground don't seem to be growing any faster than the potted one Oh yeah, both the potted ones and the ones in the ground are getting quite a bit of shade. Edited July 3, 2010 by hanapalms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone 1,974 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Zeeth, I've seen these pics before, (post 33-40) but never tire of them. Thanks for posting. It also shows the conditions they will handle as seedlings. The ones under canopy look quite happy, and they don't seem to mind growing en masse, all clumped together. This species would make a beautiful pool side coconut palm alternative in cooler areas. I'm going to plant at least one of all the species in my front balinese courtyard garden when I build it. A few alfredii should be put in I think. Maybe 6. Best regards Tyrone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrew968 1,605 Report post Posted March 7, 2011 I have a beccariophoenix alfredii WITH WINDOWS--is this normal for alfredii? How fast is alfredii compared to the other two? I got it out of a greenhouse--should I acclimate it to full sun before I plant it, or just plant it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
