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Rafael

Hi Zeeth!

I have just ordered two beccariophoenix alfredii, 40 cm tall. :drool:

Later will upload pics.

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Tyrone

Zeeth the pic in Post 36 is really special IMO. Imagine a forest of them. I reckon they are the coconut alternative for pool plantings in California and southern Australia, and even a driveway coconut alternative for the tropics etc where falling coconuts tend to destroy cars.

Beautiful. :drool:

Best regards

Tyrone

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Jonathan

They look better than any coconut I've ever seen - more shiny and full looking - like a good head of hair (though not mine!).

Just wish I could convince my alfedii'd to grow a bit faster....

Great photo's thanks.

Jonathan

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Alberto

THANK YOU VERY MUCH Keith for this pics. :drool::drool::drool:

I was drooling from the first to the last one,specially #39,were the alfrediis are growing near that little stream (looks like our ´´lajeados´´ streaming trough the campos vegetation here) Fantastic pics. Very nice collor on the fruits!

Why the spathas were bundeled with an inflorescence in the last pic? Collecting pollen??? Do you know???

Pic of a ´´lajeado´´,only they are surrounded by S.romanzoffiana and araucaria angustifolia....

http://canionturismo.com.br/cambara-do-sul/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lajeado-da-margarida.jpg

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Gileno Machado

Superb habitat photos Zeeth, thanx for sharing...I hadn't realized how B. alfredi thrives in such rather dry conditions, restricted to valleys in humid microclimates...Now I may keep my seedlings in the dry side for the winter.

Hey Alberto...are you growing Beccarios down there in your lajeados yet? Do you want a big seedling that I can take down to Rio next month?

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Central Floridave

thanks for the shots of alfredii. I was wondering what mine would look like in the future (if it makes it). My small seedling survived our record cold this winter unprotected.

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Alberto

Hey Alberto...are you growing Beccarios down there in your lajeados yet? Do you want a big seedling that I can take down to Rio next month?

Hi Gileno,

B.alfredii was on my list for´´ must have´´ for several years,and when RPS was selling them for the first time some years ago,I imediatelly bought 20 seeds and I planted them out now for one or two years here in Carambeí and also in warmer Tibagi... and they are thrriving. I only can hope that someday I´ll see a beauty like this on this shots, growing here!!!:drool:

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CoconutFreak

Holy F#$K those Beccariophoenix alfredii's look like coconuts. Thanks for the pic Zeeth! :drool::mrlooney:

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CoconutFreak

I have two Beccariophoenix sp Windows seedlings, but sorry have no photos yet. Will try to take some soon. :(

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Wai`anae Steve

I have two in the ground for maybe a year on average. They went in at different times. The Alfredii went in the ground in July of '08 , Madagascarensis ground in August of '09

Here are two of each. Alfred :-) first. Lost it's windows if it really ever had any.

Madagascarensis still has windows, but the leaves are very yellow. Gotta add something to the soil. this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves.

Both were bought from Jeff Marcus back in 2008.

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The Palm Nut

This is my Beccariophoenix window form.

MIke

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Wai`anae Steve

This is my Beccariophoenix window form.

MIke

Nice Palm Mike. Nice Ranch Hand Also... :lol:

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Zeeth

Nice pics guys.

Steve, some iron would help the windows form, throw some Blood meal down and it should green up.

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Mark Heath

I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find!

Thanks in advance,

Mark

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redant

I have two in the ground for maybe a year on average. They went in at different times. The Alfredii went in the ground in July of '08 , Madagascarensis ground in August of '09

Here are two of each. Alfred :-) first. Lost it's windows if it really ever had any.

Madagascarensis still has windows, but the leaves are very yellow. Gotta add something to the soil. this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves.

Both were bought from Jeff Marcus back in 2008.

"this is the only palm of over 100 in the ground showing such yellow leaves."

IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON IRON and some more iron, they are iron hogs and croak without it.

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Zeeth

I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find!

Thanks in advance,

Mark

JD in the OC has some that I know of, also Floribunda

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PalmatierMeg

Last night I took photos of the largest of 5 B. alfredii I germinated easily from seed last year and the B. madagascariensis I bought from Jeff Searle in spring 2009. It has more than doubled in size since I planted it from a 3g and sailed through our wretched winter with only minor tip burn. I brought the B. alfrediis inside only when temps fell below freezing because they were in 1g pots and I feared root damage from cold. Very robust palms.

Beccariophoenix alfredii in 1g and B. madagascariensis in ground

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Beccariophoenix alfredii

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Beccarophoenix madagascariensis

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Walter John

Here's a group of Beccario from Mark Daish's in Babinda NQ.

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CoconutFreak

Those are fabulous Beccariophoenix in Babinda.

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Mark Heath

I am looking to buy a cpl of the B.Alfedii. Can anyone help me find some that are one gallon sized?? I'll order seedlings if that is all i can find!

Thanks in advance,

Mark

JD in the OC has some that I know of, also Floribunda

Thanks for the info Keith,

I ordered a 7gallon this morning from JD in the OC!

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Zeeth

Those are some lovely Beccarios Wal!

Mark, make sure to post pics when you get it!

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JD in the OC

Mark, got your order, thanks! B. alfredii is a GREAT palm..

We will ship it first thing next week.

JD

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iamjv

Meg, what kind of temps did your Becc. Mad. see??? Good to hear it only had minor tip burn. Jv

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PalmatierMeg

Meg, what kind of temps did your Becc. Mad. see??? Good to hear it only had minor tip burn. Jv

JV, my B. mad. took multiple nights below 40 and days below 55. On Jan. 9 we got persistent rain past dark with daytime temps below 39 that fell to freezing that night. On Jan. 10 temps reached 40s with gale-force winds. I was able to cover it with a t-shirt before nightfall. The morning of Jan. 11 low reached 28.5. Nights the rest of the week hovered near freezing. Considering the bashing this palm took this winter - temps have been running 10-20 degrees below normal until this last week - it is bouncing back fine. I'm thinking of planting my 1g B. alfredii near its cousin.

My in-ground palms in the back yard are running 25%+ death toll. I think I've lost all my Pinangas, as well as my Hydriasteles, Rhopaloblastes, Arecas and Euterpes. Yesterday we pulled out two P. speciosas. Today we pulled our 5' Licuala grandis. And I'm getting bad vibes about the Bentinckia, Cocos, and worst of all, the Areca concinna. A lot of stuff that seemed to survive the Jan. 9-11 major hit may have been done in by months of below normal chill. In the next few weeks I'll post a final death toll.

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iamjv

Meg, thanks for the update. Yes it's been a terrible winter and I kept pulling my potted B.Mad inside every time we were heading into the 20s or lower. By accident, I did leave it out on the last hard freeze where it saw and survived 26F. The palm has about 40-50% frond burn but seems to be growing. Clearly this will need to be a potted palm for me and my location but I'll enjoy it none the less... Jv

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Rafael

Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position.

One has never grown anything.

The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... :(

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Hello Zeeth! :)

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Zeeth

Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position.

One has never grown anything.

The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... :(

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Hello Zeeth! :)

They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground?

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Rafael

Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position.

One has never grown anything.

The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... :(

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Hello Zeeth! :)

They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground?

They are in the ground for two months.

In the meanwhile i got another one, a gift, from the same nursery, but i am a little worried about puting it in the ground.

I am 900 mts from the sea, have a good humidity ratio, salt winds, not very strong sun (coastal sun).

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Zeeth

Got two 40 cm b. alfredii, as said above, both in full sun, well drained position.

One has never grown anything.

The other has grown a little, but is showing yellow sunburning leaves damage. I am worried... :(

post-3292-12777378147663_thumb.jpg

Hello Zeeth! :)

They may possibly have been shade grown, or could just be acclimating to your position. Seaweed and Fish emulsion should help them out a bit. Wait until they're growing well to apply fertilizer. How long have they been in the ground?

They are in the ground for two months.

In the meanwhile i got another one, a gift, from the same nursery, but i am a little worried about puting it in the ground.

I am 900 mts from the sea, have a good humidity ratio, salt winds, not very strong sun (coastal sun).

Hmm, it sounds like they may be growing a lot of roots under that ground. It seems like this species will grow underground before they do above ground. You might want to keep the one in the pot so you have something to grow while the other 2 are creeping along. I'd say you should grow the other one until it starts putting out leaves with the windows in them, and then adjust it slowly out into the full sun, and maybe plant it when it has fully pinnate leaves. Your conditions sound good for this palm, so once you get them growing, they should do fine.

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Rafael

I will act as suggested, thanks, and later i will let you know. :)

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AJQ

Rafael,

My one has been planted for a few months now and it got Sunburnt. I put a mini "G" over it to increase the temps, the new frond looks a lot better but still has a bit of sunburn even under the mini "G". I shall leave it in there untill this time next year. When hopefully it should have acclimasied by then.

Regards Andy.

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Rafael

Andy, sorry, but what do you mean by "Mini G"?

Regards.

Rafael

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AJQ

Rafael, it is a miniture plastic green house.

Regards Andy.

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peachy

Rafael, mine burnt in the hot summer sun too, I had to put some shade cloth over it. Now that its cold here I took the cloth away and its coping perfectly with our winter sun so it will be well acclimatised by summer.

Peachy

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Rafael

Well, i think i am gonna put a mini shade cloth over it.

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redant

I would replace those pretty white rocks with some nice thick mulch. I have one in full sun and looks great.

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hanapalms

I planted a couple B. madagascariensis at least two or three years back and a couple are still in pots (same age):

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Oh yeah, both the potted ones and the ones in the ground are getting quite a bit of shade. :huh:

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Tyrone

Zeeth, I've seen these pics before, (post 33-40) but never tire of them. Thanks for posting. It also shows the conditions they will handle as seedlings. The ones under canopy look quite happy, and they don't seem to mind growing en masse, all clumped together. This species would make a beautiful pool side coconut palm alternative in cooler areas. I'm going to plant at least one of all the species in my front balinese courtyard garden when I build it. A few alfredii should be put in I think. Maybe 6. :D

Best regards

Tyrone

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Mandrew968

I have a beccariophoenix alfredii WITH WINDOWS--is this normal for alfredii? How fast is alfredii compared to the other two? I got it out of a greenhouse--should I acclimate it to full sun before I plant it, or just plant it?

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