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Would you plant it again?


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Have you planted a palm that if it died you would not plant that palm again and if so why.

My palm I will not replant is Pritchardia pacifica, while I love the look of this palm in the summer the winter really trashes it. Now I pass by this ugly toasted palm that will be that way for months, then just as it looks good again another winter trashing.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

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Can't say that I am quite there yet on any palm, but I am getting close on my Cocothrinax, and worried I might get there on my Triangle.

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I would probably give any palm another try that I had decided to put in the ground in the first place. I might not plant a golden malayan coconut again if mine bit the dust. I think they are very attractive, but mine turns completely yellow and ratty every winter. It's amazing how much less cool/cold tolerant it is than green malayan.

-Michael

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For starters, Areca catechu . . . .

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Doug,

I'm O for 3, so no, I'm not planting anymore Ravenea xerophylla. All 3 have died, at least I should say, all 3 have lost their center spear leaf. But the older leaves remain green/silver, and one of them is now 2 years with no spear leaf. Strange.......

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Yes. Hyophorbe Indica. I have lost 2, most likely due to bad planting by yours' truly. Neither rooted properly and they died a slow death over about 3 years. I mean, c'mon....if you're going to die, make it quick. Don't leave me hangin' wondering what the hecks going on. I would try them again, though. Love that white trunk and the graceful fronds.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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Lepidorrachis Mooreana- I have killed two....and they perished rapidly....within few weeks.....low humidity for more than a few days will do it. I give up.

Mission Viejo, CA

Limited coastal influence

5-10 days of frost

IPS and PSSC Member

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Palms I've killed:

Archontophoenix alexandrae (cold), Veitchia arecina (cold), Roystonea borinquena (cold), Rhopalostyis sapida (pink), Dypsis onilahensis (pink), Wodyetia bifurcata (cold)

I'm growing all the above again except for Veitchia arecina. 3 of the above were 1 gallons left outside all winter. They deserve a better chance.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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many years ago I had Oncosperma tigillarium.... It did great during the summer... but put up no resistance when winter came :angry: ... never will try that one again.....

Phoenix Area, Arizona USA

Low Desert...... Zone 9b

Jan ave 66 high and 40 low

July ave 105 high and 80 low

About 4 to 8 frost a year...ave yearly min temp about 27F

About 8 inches of rain a year.

Low Desert

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Cool Mtn climate at 7,000'

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I haven’t had any in-ground palms die, except for two that I transplanted poorly. I have had many tropical ones die in 5 to 15 gallon pots. I tried growing a lot of cold tender palms in pots; moving them into the garage during cold weather. I’ve stopped moving them and will not replace them when they die. There are too many great palms that grow well here to waste time and space on ones that need babying.

I recently removed a Bismarckia because most of the leaves had some damage every winter. It always recovered, but I knew it wouldn’t make it in the long run. It may have been more tender than normal, but I won’t try another one - partly because they are marginal here and partly because I’m staying away from massive palms in my yard now. I also removed Sabal causiarum and domingensis because they would get too big one day and not fit into my small yard.

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I had a Bismarkia that survived 2 winters, but the 3rd winter it dropped to 23 F and the Bismarkia was toast. I didn't think it would live in my climate and I was right. Not only are my winters cold, but the Spring is normally long, cool and wet and tropical palms don't like that. The Bismarkia would look nice until the first warm weather after winter and then it would develop ugly brown splotches on the foliage. By the end of summer it would look OK, only to get whacked the next winter. Life is to short to watch an ugly, burned up palm half the year.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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I won't try Hydriastele wendlandianna again. I've had two in the ground and one has completely gone the other in a more protected spot had the main stem die but the suckers have kicked along. I have another in a pot that I put in the hothouse, but I'll never try these again. Just too marginal here.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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I won't try Hydriastele wendlandianna again. I've had two in the ground and one has completely gone the other in a more protected spot had the main stem die but the suckers have kicked along. I have another in a pot that I put in the hothouse, but I'll never try these again. Just too marginal here.

Best regards

Tyrone

I thought it was doing quite well???

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

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Ari, It's just a tad too tropical for me here. The first winter it did fine and kicked on again the next summer, but we didn't drop below 3.3C that year. The next year we had a serious wet spell and cooler temps, and we were in the UK for that part of winter, and when I came back the main stem was on a weird leaning angle. That stem finally died around Oct. The suckers are still growing though. The one I planted out the back didn't make it through last winter. It wasn't as protected either. The Areca catechu next to it didn't miss a beat and looks flawless.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Joey palms have said no to my garden a few times, I now listen.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Well I have killed 2 Washingtonia filifera's over the past 2 years and one Jubaea chilensis....and no I am not giving up op on them yet.

They just stayed wet over the winter and didn't care too much for it.

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Well I have killed 2 Washingtonia filifera's over the past 2 years and one Jubaea chilensis....and no I am not giving up op on them yet.

I praise your enthusiasum,and it seems you are my type...since washy filifera's don't grow well for our wet tropical climate here in south india. :)

love conquers all..

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Kris, they should grow ok here. Plenty of other people seem to be growing them with no problems.

I think I need to get a bigger plant to start with instead of the smaller ones I have been purchasing. In my desire to get them established and growing in the ground I have probably rushed a bit in planting them.

Oh well, I learn a little bit every time I kill one. :)

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Ironic enough I recently pondered this same notion.... thinking - when the next artic blast comes down and kills off some of these palms, which ones would I care to replant. Well without a doubt, I wouldn't plant pure queens nor butias as they get an iron deficiency here in my part of Texas. However, I would try hybrids of them, knowingly taking on the effort needed to build large amended beds for their success. Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

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Kris, they should grow ok here. Plenty of other people seem to be growing them with no problems.

I think I need to get a bigger plant to start with instead of the smaller ones I have been purchasing. In my desire to get them established and growing in the ground I have probably rushed a bit in planting them.

"Oh well, I learn a little bit every time I kill one". :)

:)

love conquers all..

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I will try Pinanga caesia again after losing her twice in the past, the trouble is finding it again for sale.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Don't give up! It is a great palm. We are due for some favorable winters. It will last longer than a dozen roses and is cheaper :)

Best regards,

Ron.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Wal, what killed your Joeys? Not the cold, eh?

Jody

Chilliwack British Columbia

Zone 8/9 until 3 years ago. Now Zone 6b.

Don't even get me started.

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