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Coldhardiness and adaptability of Parajubaea sunkha


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Alberto, I am happy to see that you revived this thread. Your Parajubaea S. has really grown, and your children too. Tim

Tim Hopper

St Augustine Florida

timhoppers@gmail.com

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Im growing P. tvt, P. sunka & P. microcarpa in Puerto Rico. ( caribbean weather range 90ºF , 90% humidity- summer to fall) GOOD NEWS:D

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P.TVT

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Parajubaeas & cocos nucifera

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P.TVT

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P.sunka

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P. sunka leaves

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P. TVT

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P. TVT

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P. microcarpa

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P. microcarpa

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P.sunka

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Yes Tim and Ante,both are growing well!!:)

Mantis,congratulations with your Parajubaeas. Did you germinate the seeds?I think P.sunkha has a better chance in your climate.

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Great Palm Alberto!!

I'm impressed how fast grow this palm

Mine ( Sunka) survived last winter with temperature that drop to -7,5/8c for 3 long time

Sunka was the only Parajubaea with minimal demages , almost nothing

TVT spear pulled but recover enough well

Microcarpa spear pulled but didn't come back , so next time I will wait to have a bigger palm in pot before plant it in the ground

I want also try again Parajubaea cocoides, as I was too impatient to put my 2 beautiful palms in the ground and leave they without any winter protection

Sunka is the best of the group , at least in my climate

Thanks for the beautiful pics

Best M@x

M@x

North Rome Italy

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WOW Alberto very impressive !:drool: just like Gary Levines !

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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Thanks :).I also like this palm very much .I suspect it feels totally at home here.

Sunday morning. A few more pics of my biggest P.sunkha from other angles.

Vieuw from the balcon on the second floor: Trunk of the very old Butia eriospatha and two P.sunkhas and my biggest Trachycarpus martianus Khasia Hills (foreground)Other younger B.eriospatha left side of the pic.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto I am very jealous of your Parajubaeas and Jubaeas , really somebody should start a viviero for these species there in the mountains.

Impossible to grow them here.

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

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Alberto I am very jealous of your Parajubaeas and Jubaeas , really somebody should start a viviero for these species there in the mountains.

Impossible to grow them here.

Nigel,if my property was in Florianópolis , probably I was growing a lot of other species and not Parajubaeas :mrlooney:

Yes,this species deserves cultivation here!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I have had quite a bit of Success with TVT and Microcarpa unfortunately last winters 6 weeks of Narnia conditions was too much for them.

I was particularly annoyed with my first one which had been in the ground for 5 years and the pinate fronds were starting to stiffen up nicely.

Despite the protection of a Pop up Fleece it didn't make it. However, that winter was exceptional. I have pushed the boat out and acquired a lager TVT and also a small strap leave Sunkha as well. Reading this post it will be interesting to see how the Sunka developes.

Nigel, how come Parajubs don't do well for you there?

Is it too hot for them?

Alberto, your Parajubs are Stunning!

Regards Andy.

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Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -2.0C so far, verging on 9b this year. No snow or Frost this Winter. Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way. Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town

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Let's see an update on these palms in Florida!! Are they really making it or was this thread false hope?..

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Hello , i am living in Greece zone 9b .

I bought three Parajubaeas in September 2010 , torallyi var torallyi , torallyi var microcarpa and the sunkha . They came all bare root and i plant them in pots , the sunkha rooted well and start growing after seven months the torallyi var microcarpa only two leaves the past summer and the torallyi var torallyi no signs of growth until now . All survived at least -3 c for a short time without any sign of damage !

This spring i am going to plant the two of them ( sunkha and t. v. t. ) in my garden , i hope they will live happily for many years, yours too !

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If you wait to do everything until you're sure it's right, you'll probably never do much of anything.

Western Greece zone 9b

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Mine is still doing well! No photos of it now though.

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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What is the diameter of the base of those trunks Alberto? How wide will they get eventually ?

Regards Andy.

Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -2.0C so far, verging on 9b this year. No snow or Frost this Winter. Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way. Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town

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Krishna,

I'm interested to see how your P. sunkha is doing. Please post a pic when you get the chance.

Mine died as I neglected it and it ended up getting shaded out and rotting. I have another one that I am going to try and get into the ground either late summer or next spring.

Thanks,

jt

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

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Hmm, I think this is the most recent photo I have of it and its from this spring. It was still growing very nicely when last I saw it in late June! It slows down quite a bit during the summer but still seems to be growing well!

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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No problem, IMO it's definitely worth trying again as mine has been pretty trouble free, albeit slow. My Dypsis decepiens is also really starting to put on some size. I've honestly had less problems with these two palms than with my Butia x Parajubaea and Jubaea x Syagrus. They seem more tolerant of moisture during the winter months than the hybrids do, or at least that has been the case for me.

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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What is the diameter of the base of those trunks Alberto? How wide will they get eventually ?

Regards Andy.

The base of the trunkwith the atached leave bases measured 1.43 meters (56 inches)

. It will probably be much thinner when they fall from the trunk.

Mine shows 6 big spathes covered with some thin brown tomentum. Soon I´ll have my own seeds ans will use the pollen on my Butia eriospatha ! :winkie:

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thanks for the Info Alberto, I could not find this thread after doing an exhaustive search recently, so I asked you the same question in the other thread i started.

Regards Andy.

Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -2.0C so far, verging on 9b this year. No snow or Frost this Winter. Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way. Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town

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Found this thread in researching for my new property. Would be nice to see updates and to also find out if anyone is selling larger ones?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Mine is still going strong. I posted an updated photo a few weeks ago on here.

-Krishna

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Another bump....Alberto... what is yours looking like these days....bet it's huge. Jason, did you try another? Krishna, how is yours doing? Anybody else?

I am debating trying one here.....would this do better in full exposed blaring sun, wind, hot, cold.... or a more protected area of the yard?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Still doing well, posted a photo recently in another thread. These like a good amount of sun but should be in a slightly more protected area as they seem to only be slightly more hardy than queen palms for me.

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Tank, Eric, do you have any updated photos of yours? Are they still around?

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Tank, Eric, do you have any updated photos of yours? Are they still around?

Slowly getting bigger. No problems as of yet. As I mentioned in another thread, it, and the B x PJ are sitting in the best microclimate in my yard.

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View from the porch. Its a little hard to see but I thought it might be useful to put into context where I planted it. Its in the second planter. BxJ, P. sunkha, and a silver (whatever that means) queen with a Livistona muelleri right behind the queen VERY close to the wall. The yuccas will probably be removed once and if the palms get bigger.

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Jason

Gainesville, Florida

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Keith, I posted one of the Leu Gardens Palm recently also. Although older than mine it's about half the size.

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Looks like I will be getting one from Patric.....he said it's big....can't wait.....hope its ok with beach sand and summer sun.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Good luck!

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Thanks..........been noticing all the pictures of this palm in habitat and the ones successfully grown elsewhere, all have clay looking soil and rock....wonder if I should mix some clay with the beach sand?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Thanks..........been noticing all the pictures of this palm in habitat and the ones successfully grown elsewhere, all have clay looking soil and rock....wonder if I should mix some clay with the beach sand?

Mine are growing in sandy soil

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Alberto....I wonder if your sand is like mine. I literally have sand the consistency and color of white sugar....almost like growing in hydroponics. Just a few miles north the soil changes to red clay.....Trachyocarpus sp. struggle to survive but do well in the clay to the north. All the pictures of P. sunkha habitat shows lots of huge boulders and reddish looking soil. Could you post a picture of your soil?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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Thanks..........been noticing all the pictures of this palm in habitat and the ones successfully grown elsewhere, all have clay looking soil and rock....wonder if I should mix some clay with the beach sand?

I have specimens that are thriving in pots, which are full of very fast-draining soil. The ones in the ground are growing in clay, liberally amended with organics. The ones in the pots need watering a lot more often, but, other than that, seem to do just as well.

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Alberto....I wonder if your sand is like mine. I literally have sand the consistency and color of white sugar....almost like growing in hydroponics. Just a few miles north the soil changes to red clay.....Trachyocarpus sp. struggle to survive but do well in the clay to the north. All the pictures of P. sunkha habitat shows lots of huge boulders and reddish looking soil. Could you post a picture of your soil?

I know... there is sandy soil.....and sandy soil. Mine is certainly not the same as I would find in a dune near the sea!

This is a pic when I was removing 3 Phoenix canariensis from the backyard, where the P.sunkka are growing. You can see it´s not wite sand :winkie: but is quite sandy....

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Wow....your yard has sure matured! Is that the sunkha on the right side with all that trunk? .... pretty incredible 

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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