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edbrown_III

I have been intensely pollenating Butia x Allagoptera

I have a few seedlings but still waiting for some characteristics to hit me in the face. I had posted a putatitve one a whiel back I will repost some Butia hybrids that are precociously presenting some of these characteristics

Best regards

Ed

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edbrown_III

While moving hybrids in the greenhouse to get some heat and winter growth I stumbled on this jewel in the middle of grouup of my hybrids

Best regards,

Ed

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edbrown_III

forgot to post this view

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freakypalmguy

What about the other way around? Allagoptera X (Butia or Syagrus or ....)

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Brad-Tampa

This garden volunteer has been posted before, presumed cross of adjacent Allogoptera and ?

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edbrown_III
What about the other way around? Allagoptera X (Butia or Syagrus or ....)

I had some crosses of these but seeds were eaten

Best regards

Ed

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edbrown_III
This garden volunteer has been posted before, presumed cross of adjacent Allogoptera and ?

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I had heard folks talk about a Butia x Allagoptera cross during the first palm fest a decade or so ago. I asked on the board but never heard any reply-- This lead me to try to start crossign these species--

This could be the Allagoptera x Butia or a Allagoptera x Syagrus--- or even Polyandrococus ( now Allagoptera) .

What is interesting is the seeds -- all Allagoptera character nothing else.

Best regards and thnks for the information.

Ed Brown

--- where is the tree located ? How

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edbrown_III

Brad ,

One more thing do you have any more details of this tree or a contact so I could visit it?

Best regards,

Ed

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Mark Heath

Good job Ed!!!! Looks like the real deal to me!!! I can't wait to see it in ten years, WOW!

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DoomsDave
Brad ,

One more thing do you have any more details of this tree or a contact so I could visit it?

Best regards,

Ed

It's at his late father's estate in Tampa.

I was there, part of the Holy Land . . .

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Brad-Tampa

Ed,

It's in Tampa, you are welcome anytime, just PM me before you head this way. Next to it are the two original Allagoptera plants from Rio I believe, a couple of regular looking volunteers and this one. There is another similar specimen at the USF Botanical Garden that I presume was donated by my Father. This plant has set seed the past two years but the squirrels get them before I can.

This pic shows the JXB next to them. Also in the area are Butias ands Queens, etc. that were around as possible pollen sources.

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merrill

Hi,Brad;

Is it possible that hybrid is Arikury [s. Schizophylla] X Allagoptera? The size of the hybrid is commensurate w/ a cross with something small like Arikury.

Best Wishes,

merrill

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Brad-Tampa

Hello Merrill,

I don't remember or have record of that species in the garden and I think the cross was not actively produced by Dad. The garden log left by Roy Works when he worked with Dad presumes it is an unidentified hybrid produced by the adjacent Allagoptera arenaria.

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edbrown_III
Ed,

It's in Tampa, you are welcome anytime, just PM me before you head this way. Next to it are the two original Allagoptera plants from Rio I believe, a couple of regular looking volunteers and this one. There is another similar specimen at the USF Botanical Garden that I presume was donated by my Father. This plant has set seed the past two years but the squirrels get them before I can.

This pic shows the JXB next to them. Also in the area are Butias ands Queens, etc. that were around as possible pollen sources.

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Much obliged for the reply -- I will do that

Best regards

Ed

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Eric in Orlando

Wow, that is a cool palm, sure looks like the Butia pollinated the Allagoptera. I remember seeing that specimen.

Ed, your babies will be interesting to see what they grow into.

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Alberto

Allagoptera arenaria x (BxJ) ??? This is a shot of Fam. Butiinae! Uncle Attalea behind the little bastard. :)

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Matt N- Dallas

Very nice plants Ed. It will be interesting to watch them grow.

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kristof p

so they do exist, i was wondering for almost two years if such a cross exist.

very, very interesting!...and beautifull.

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BS Man about Palms

Post an UPDATE! :)

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Alicehunter2000

Ran across this thread while looking for Allogoptera threads...........Bizarre! ...never knew such a thing existed....how bout an update on those seedlings.

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Stevetoad

Great bump. My allagoptera is just starting to bloom.

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Mandrew968

My brevicalyx is pushing a new flower spike too :)

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Alicehunter2000

This tree would look a lot better if the trunk was cleaned up, dead fronds were cut, and the weird inflorescence thingamabobs were removed.....is that what those are?

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Phoenikakias

Mine (arenaria) has also pushed a new spathe, second consecutive year in this season, but due to low average temps it will start again to develop it next spring. On the other hand another presumably Allagoptera arenaria I have, has never bloomed this time of year and so I begin to have doubts whether it is pure arenaria (maybe mixed with leukocalyx?)

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Alicehunter2000

Bump......Ed?

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floridascape

This palm has recently been moved to the kopsick arboretum in st. Pete florida. It is in good company there and seems to have taken the move well. I will try and make that my first photo that I post!.

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edbrown_III

and I cant find any of the photos i took during the visit --- I gotta go down again.

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Brad-Tampa

Hello Ed,

It would be great to see you again, but that Allogoptera hybrid is now at Kopsick Garden in St. Pete. It is on the left in this picture taken last Sunday. A JXB F2 is on the right and the Borassus they transplanted is in the background.

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edbrown_III

Brad,

Much obliged I will keep trying with some of the crosses but its alot of misses and you dont know until years later what yu have --- thanks you for all the hospitality and I hope to get down to see you

Best regards

Ed

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Alicehunter2000

Any updates?

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Zeeth

The one at Kopsick died, and the one at USF got removed (not sure why).

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abdalav

Did you discover what kind of hybrid these palms were?

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Alberto

How will the suposed hybrid made by Ed Brown looks now after this years?

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